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To: b_sharp
Oh boy, I hope everybody is paying attention, look at this:

When I put up the rhetorical question about grapefruits and kumquats, I really didn’t think there'd be anybody dumb enough to take the bait, but as they say about liberals, "You can't make this stuff up!"

117 posted on 01/23/2006 6:42:55 PM PST by StACase
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To: StACase

Excellent point!

You're good. You can make mince meat out of these evolutionist cultists.


133 posted on 01/23/2006 6:57:35 PM PST by TheBrotherhood
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To: StACase

He said we "could" be, not that it is known that we are. Leave it to a creationist to play semantic games rather than address reality.


154 posted on 01/23/2006 7:15:30 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: StACase
The genetic evidence and the phylogenetic evidence is that both plants and animals diverged from bacteria, probably uebacteria. That divergence was perhaps 600 - 800 million years ago so our similarities, morphologically speaking are few. Genetically there are far more similarities.

You are aware, I hope, that our genome contains the remnants of bacteria and our body uses bacteria to utilize oxygen and that plants use bacteria to pull energy from the sun? Similar use for similar symbionts.

And indeed I did not just make this up, the evidence is there for those who dare to look.

160 posted on 01/23/2006 7:20:21 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: StACase; b_sharp
Oh boy, I hope everybody is paying attention, look at this:
Could we be more closely related to grapefruits than to kumquats? Yes.
When I put up the rhetorical question about grapefruits and kumquats, I really didn’t think there'd be anybody dumb enough to take the bait

Becaue you don't have enough understanding to realize you actually asked a legitimate question.

To give a non-fruit non-controversial analogy:
Humans, chimps, gorillas share a common ancestor
Humans, chimsp also share a common ancestor not ancestral to gorillas, so humans and chimpos are more closely related to each other than either is to the gorilla.

However the divergance between us (humans/chimps) and gorillas is comrised of:
1) divergance bewtween gorilla and human-chimp-gorilla ancestor
. 1i) divergance bewtween human-chimp-gorilla ancestor and human-chimp ancestor
. iii) finally divergance bewtween human-chimp ancestor and humans or chimps respectivly
.

So if we are closer to the human-chimp ancestor than chimps are (ie the rate of evolution for humans has been slower) them gorillas are closer to us than to chimps.

Or going back to your original fruit analogy, we are gorillas.

238 posted on 01/23/2006 8:39:32 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: StACase

"More closely related" is a relative term. It's a bit like saying that, looking east, I'm closer to Berlin than Tehran (I'm in Alabama). Of course, parsing is not a creationist strongpoint, so I don't hold your inability to see the distinction against you.


319 posted on 01/24/2006 3:14:48 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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