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To: hedgetrimmer
The WTO is OBVIOUSLY superceding the Constitution.

Well, with such knowledge, why didn't the President nominate you for the high court?

Point being, that if the WTO is obviously superceding the Constitution, then nothing can be done about it because the United States, its judiciary, executive and legislative are completely helpless.

OTOH, if it is not superceding the Constitution, but simply effecting an action that is in violation of the Constitution, then the judiciary will so find. If the USSC finds that, in fact, such agreements do not operate outside of the Constitution, then you may learn something you were unaware of before. So my point is valid. That is that such agreements do not create a set of laws that set aside our Constitution, with no recourse.

Where does the Constitution give an international tribunal authority to tax the American people? Where does it say that people who are not American citizens, are not elected by American citizens and do not operate UNDER the constitution can tax them?

That is the issue that would come within the jurisdiction of the federal court system. Since the Constitution gives the President and Congress the authority to make and ratify agreements, and taxes and fines are not specifically excluded from such authority, I would guess the USSC would not find it unconstitutional. Perhaps we should wait and see.

Such things don't bother me because any international agreement whether it be for trade or defense places certain limitations and requirements on all signing parties. Been going on since 1800. Since the US is not self sufficient, it must participate in trade agreements. But if a person is in a union controlled enterprise, I can understand reluctance for such agreements.

297 posted on 01/24/2006 5:20:59 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
Well, with such knowledge, why didn't the President nominate you for the high court?

I don't know where you're from, but in the country where I was born I was taught and do believe that the US Constitution was written in such a way that even a plain old citizen can understand its meaning. So you must be some kind of elitist who doesn't believe in the right of the sovereign citizen for self government.

Point being, that if the WTO is obviously superceding the Constitution, then nothing can be done about it because the United States, its judiciary, executive and legislative are completely helpless.

No, none of these branches are helpless. But in fact the executive and legislative branches have been so corrupted that they are the vanguard for the destruction of individual rights in this country instead of the defenders of them.

There is recourse, but each day that recourse becomes more and more unattainable. If the goal is the complete economic and social integration with foreign countries, we are far along that path with Mexico, without one debate in Congress about it or any consent from the American people.
316 posted on 01/24/2006 7:33:11 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: MACVSOG68
Since the Constitution gives the President and Congress the authority to make and ratify agreements, and taxes and fines are not specifically excluded from such authority

So you just admitted you were wrong. That privilege does not extend to any unelected tribunal of foreign citizens.
320 posted on 01/24/2006 7:40:56 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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