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To: Designer
It's only been 60 years since the U.N. was formed.

What I said was..."and disband all treaties and agreements we have entered into over the past hundred years. They had nothing to do with the UN.

Look, I know the strategy; if I start to try to explain how CAFTA and others denigrate our sovreignty, you will come back with a rejoinder, which in your mind at least, will mean that you have successfully countered my argument.

I simply asked you for the references to the sovereignty and constitutional claims you made. I didn't even argue the point, just ask for a clarification. It's very similar to the global warming enthusiasts. They make a statement about such and such leading to warming, but when asked for references, somehow never have them.

If you didn't like my earlier examples of how it and others will destroy our sovreignty, perhaps you should try to understand why I think they do. To wit; any multi-national agreement (treaty) that sets some non-accountable agency above our own Senate, House, Executive Branch, and Judiciary, will, in my book, detract from our national sovreignty.

I've heard that. But since the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, no agreement can supercede it. Nor can any agreement withstand abrogation by Congress or the judiciary if such agreement is not constitutional.

Any agreement is simply as good as the willingness of the parties to honor it. And all agreements are generally made to benefit all signatories, and generally require something from each.

The WTO effectively dictates our domestic farm policy.

It can do nothing we do not consent to. Nor can NAFTA.

258 posted on 01/23/2006 1:33:45 PM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
It can do nothing we do not consent to.

We(meaning the "free traders" in the white house and congress and the USTR) have consented to allow the WTO to levy fines against us, and they decide the amount. And they have done so. By international tribunal, which is unconstitutional, I might add.
265 posted on 01/23/2006 1:59:27 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: MACVSOG68
I simply asked you for the references to the sovereignty and constitutional claims you made.

U.S. LUMBER INDUSTRY CHALLENGING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF NAFTA DISPUTE SETTLEMENT SYSTEM
267 posted on 01/23/2006 2:02:50 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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