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To: af_vet_rr
I really have a hard time believing that so many Americans have given up on limited government and fiscal responsibility, but maybe I'm wrong, maybe they have, maybe you are right, it's all compromise from here on out I suppose.

It's always been about compromise. The only governments that don't compromise are tyrannies. Representative government reflects the differing needs of all of its citizens. Within reason, limited government and fiscal responsibility can be improved. Vote in a congress that reflects those priorities. But don't expect it to take us back to 1789.

As for a major 3d party candidate, history reflects what that accomplishes. A 3d party candidate put Clinton into office in 1992, and one put George Bush in office in 2000. Of course, those are not the only 2 examples. It's called shooting oneself in the foot!

228 posted on 01/23/2006 11:45:36 AM PST by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
Within reason, limited government and fiscal responsibility can be improved. Vote in a congress that reflects those priorities. But don't expect it to take us back to 1789.

That's just it though - we voted in a President and Congress who promised limited government - we've had 5 years of Republican control of both, and we had Republicans coming into Congress 1994, and they all promised reduced federal spending, and we got the opposite, only now not only do we have the opposite, we have people, incumbents, who are not going to be easy to root out - keep in mind a politicians most important job, as far as they are concerned, is to win the next election, or help a buddy win the next election.

As for a major 3d party candidate, history reflects what that accomplishes.

History also reflects that the parties change over time, that new parties replace old. It used to not to be the Republicans and Democrats, and each party is radically different than it was when they were first created.

We haven't had 225 years of GOP vs DNC, we've had a lot of different Presidents and Congress critters from different parties.

There is no reason why we should think that "oh, because it's been that way for X number of years, it has to go on being that way for another X number of years".

If we don't start fixing things, either fixing the GOP, or throwing it aside for something better (which history applauds), then our grandchildren, and their grandchildren are going to be screwed, because they are going to be saddled with this huge, intrustive government that we are allowing to happen.

Our grandchildren's grandchildren are not going to care if it was a Democrat or Republican or another party in office - hell, they may not even be allowed to care, at least publicly.

What they are going to have to deal with is a government that is going to be 10 times bigger and 10 times more intrusive/powerful, if we don't start getting new people into office, good, honest people.
253 posted on 01/23/2006 1:21:41 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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