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Liberals crossing fingers for razor-thin majority (Martin predicting 115 seat minority win)
CTV ^ | January 22, 2005

Posted on 01/22/2006 8:12:40 PM PST by johnmecainrino

Liberals crossing fingers for razor-thin majority

RICHMOND, B.C. — Liberals enter Monday's election left hoping for a best-case scenario that would see them narrowly avert defeat and scrape by with a small minority government.

Paul Martin told a partisan crowd in British Columbia the province - where the Liberals hope to gain five seats - will decide whether his government gets re-elected.

Party strategists have pinpointed a list of about 115 ridings they believe they could win, a total that would still leave them at least 40 seats short of a majority in the House of Commons.

What might have been a grim prospect only weeks ago is now a fingers-crossing hope for a party entering its first election in 18 years as an underdog.

"The eyes of Canada are going to be on British Columbia tomorrow night - the election is going to be decided here," Martin told a boisterous crowd of B.C. Liberals.

"We have the numbers. We can stop (Conservative Leader) Stephen Harper."

If Martin goes down Monday, his defeat will come after an energetic 11th-hour sprint across the country.

A journey that began in Newfoundland three days earlier concluded with Martin strolling hand-in-hand with his wife, Sheila, along the Pacific shoreline Sunday.

The couple will head to vote in Martin's riding of LaSalle-Emard on Monday, following a few hours' sleep and a flight scheduled to have them back in Montreal around 3 a.m.

They will join their three sons and daughter-in-law to take in the election results from a suite in their downtown hotel room.

Then it's off to a banquet hall where Martin will address Liberal troops. If he loses, the question on everyone's lips will be whether Martin will use that concession speech to announce his retirement from politics.

But the prime minister refused to speculate about his own future and spent his final day on the hustings warning what could happen to the country under a Harper-led government.

It would be the end of the Liberals' proposed national day-care program - which the Tories would replace with a $1,200 child-care subsidy.

Harper has also said he would re-open negotiations on joining the U.S. missile-defence project and back away from both the Kyoto accord to curb greenhouse gases and a multibillion-dollar treaty with aboriginals.

Harper promised to replace those Liberal commitments with his own plans, but has offered few details.

The Liberals' best hope of retaining power now depends on a last-minute stampede of NDP and Green party supporters hoping to block Harper by voting Grit.

Martin's speeches in the campaign's final days have been aimed squarely at those voters, who helped the party keep enough seats to form a minority government in 2004.

"If you lend Jack Layton your vote, you will hand Stephen Harper your country," he said. "Canadians have to spend today and tomorrow thinking about it."

Canadians could be in store for nasty surprises because the Tories have not explained what programs they would cut to fill a $23 billion gap in their platform, Martin reiterated.

Harper says he would fill that gap by slowing down increases already promised by the Liberals. Martin pointed out that his opponents' platform never spells out where those reductions would occur.

"It was simply a return to the wing-a-prayer kind of forecasting I saw when I took over from the Tories in 1993 as finance minister," he said of his opponent's platform.

"And then ... (Harper) can't tell Canadians what he's going to do about (filling that gap)? That's a lack of accountability."

He also poked fun at Harper for clamping down on his own candidates throughout the campaign. Unscripted musings by socially conservative candidates were seen as a prime reason the Tories blew an early lead in the 2004 campaign.

"When Stephen Harper will not allow his candidates to talk to the press, then ask yourself what his definition of accountability is," Martin said, with his Vancouver-area candidates standing behind him.


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1 posted on 01/22/2006 8:12:43 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: johnmecainrino

HERES A STUPID QUESTION

All the lefties who left here cause of Bush and said they were going to Canada...where do they go now?


2 posted on 01/22/2006 8:20:03 PM PST by skaterboy (My candy cane is so yummy and delicious)
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To: johnmecainrino
The Liberal Party strategists forget one thing: they've lost francophone Canada. I don't see how they make up the losses in Quebec even with a few pickups in British Columbia. It isn't going to happen. But if they want to entertain delusions of victory, its their right. I just can't wait to see voters bid Martin and his gang of thugs good bye and good riddance tomorrow.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

3 posted on 01/22/2006 8:22:47 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: skaterboy

Iraq, of course...with all of the other "freedom fighters."


4 posted on 01/22/2006 8:23:22 PM PST by Rokurota (.)
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To: johnmecainrino

There's a web site called www.electionprediction.org that predicts:

Conservatives 118 seats
Liberals 104 seats
Bloc Quebecois 56 seats
NDP 29 seats
Other 1 seat

I can't attest to the reliability of this site - but if true, the Conservatives won't do as well as expected.

opinions anyone?


5 posted on 01/22/2006 8:25:06 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: skaterboy
where do they go now?

With any luck, it will be a long walk to Venezuela.

6 posted on 01/22/2006 8:27:53 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: MplsSteve
Its a lefty website and its predictions are selective for my taste. Andrew Coyne and posters on our sister site Free Dominion think the Conservatives will win 140 seats. That's pretty good tea leaf reading in my humble opinion. If they win more it will be a night to remember.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

7 posted on 01/22/2006 8:29:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: VeniVidiVici
I think the Liberals are going to find a way to steal it again. I have no hope for Canada. I would love to be proved wrong, but I just can't get over the suspicion that somehow, they will pull a rabbit out of the hat and win it again.
8 posted on 01/22/2006 8:30:49 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: All
Don't forget to pray for a Conservative victory in Canada tomorrow!
9 posted on 01/22/2006 8:30:56 PM PST by Reform4Bush
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To: MplsSteve

I believe the IPSOS poll has a much more optimistic prediction for the CPC.


10 posted on 01/22/2006 8:31:22 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: johnmecainrino; fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; ...
"Biased msm death rattle" PING!

Since he had them crossing their fingers anyway, Martin might as well have also advised Liberals to hedge their bets by investing heavily in lottery tickets - LOL!
11 posted on 01/22/2006 8:32:32 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: johnmecainrino
CTV has got it all wrong.
The Conservative party under Stephen Harper will form the new government for all Canadians .
God bless America and all their fine Republicans.
12 posted on 01/22/2006 8:36:33 PM PST by Kanuckyman
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To: skaterboy
All the lefties who left here cause of Bush and said they were going to Canada...where do they go now?

To Cuba of course. Where else?
Castro will gladly provide them with the utopia they seek.

13 posted on 01/22/2006 8:39:47 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: MplsSteve

CPC ~ 141
Lib ~ 79
BQ ~ 57
NDP ~ 31

14 posted on 01/22/2006 8:40:01 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: goldstategop
If that happens, do you think Michael Moore will be on suicide watch? That would be worth the price of admission right there. ;)
15 posted on 01/22/2006 8:42:01 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: johnmecainrino

It is interesting to note the uniqueness of our form of democracy. In many social democracies the President or Prime Minister and in some cases both are voted by the legislature, or in most cases the majority party. In this country each states popular election determines which candidate gets the electoral votes. I like our system much better.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 8:43:53 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: MplsSteve
There's a web site called www.electionprediction.org that predicts:

Conservatives 118 seats
Liberals 104 seats
Bloc Quebecois 56 seats
NDP 29 seats
Other 1 seat

Just say, for the purposes of argument, that Martin is right: The Libs take 115 seats.

A working majority amounts to 155 seats.

Who, in their right mind, would join a coalition with Martin's Liberals?

The NDP is who pulled the rug out from under the last government.

The Bloc is at war with the Libs.

They can't get from here to there with the Greens.

The Conservatives surely wouldn't opt for a "grand coalition".

How could Martin hope to continue governing?


17 posted on 01/22/2006 8:44:32 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Reform4Bush

Amen


18 posted on 01/22/2006 8:45:29 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MplsSteve

Martin could get less seats than Harper and still be prime minister.

When there is no majority govt martin as the incumbent still has the first shot at forming a new govt.

Martin and Layton will definately have more seats combined than harper.

With Martin's ego for power he could offer jack layton a deputy prime minister job. McClellan the current deputy PM is going to lose.

Martin came to power on an obsession of power and he will not give it up.


19 posted on 01/22/2006 8:48:00 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: MplsSteve

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=cf6265ef-0285-42fe-8992-0cdcf5a0add3&k=91157
Tory lead firm: poll
Harper's party ahead by 12 points, NDP poised to boost seats


20 posted on 01/22/2006 8:49:09 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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