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Bush Doesn't Remember Abramoff Meetings
AssPress via Yahoo!News ^ | January 22, 2006

Posted on 01/22/2006 2:36:34 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: buffyt

Thanks for the pictures.


41 posted on 01/22/2006 3:29:48 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

meanwhile werent 1.5 million pictures of President Reagan while in office released this week?


42 posted on 01/22/2006 3:34:41 PM PST by alisasny (<h3>"Watching Ted Kennedy is a nonintellectual feast."</h3>)
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To: FairOpinion

It's really not a good defense to say that Clinton did it, so therefore it's ok for Bush to do it. Bush should be held to a higher standard than the Commander In Cheat. Personally, I want to find out what Bush was doing - if anything - with this rat.


43 posted on 01/22/2006 3:34:54 PM PST by WillT
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To: Texas Eagle

ROFLOL.


45 posted on 01/22/2006 3:44:00 PM PST by carlr
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To: raulibanez77

Considering the source (Scanlon), I'll withhold judgment for now, but thanks for the info.


46 posted on 01/22/2006 3:45:19 PM PST by WillT
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To: Eva

Makes sense, doen't it?


47 posted on 01/22/2006 3:48:20 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Wasanother
I'm very critical of the MSM for precisely the reason you state. The tide has turned and competitive market forces (primarily from Fox and the 'new' media) will continue to erode their viewership and readership and thus their influence.

The future looks bright for conservative press.

48 posted on 01/22/2006 4:05:33 PM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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To: Kaslin

Hell I have met the President also...bet he would remember me....amongst the thousands of other folks....what a crock of Bovine Secretions....


50 posted on 01/22/2006 4:17:21 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: FairOpinion

"Does anyone have those pictures of Wan Ho Lee ( or whatever his name was, the Chinese spy or some cohort) with Bill Clinton?"

Here is a drop in the bucket...found this in a Yahoo search..

OUR NYT OP AD: Text

IN THE BACKSEAT WITH A BILLIONAIRE: A Story Told Eight Years
Later

The TomPaine.com Staff .


Picture this: A meeting in the backseat of a limousine. A
presidential candidate and a mysterious billionaire -- an
Indonesian with ties to the Chinese government.

The billionaire promises one million dollars for the candidate's
fall campaign. What he wants in exchange ... the audience is left
to imagine.

A scene from a movie about presidents and power? Unfortunately
not. This meeting really happened. The candidate: Bill Clinton.
The billionaire: James Riady.

The date of this encounter makes it interesting. Not 1996 -- the
campaign renowned for its Asian money scandal. This meeting
happened four years earlier, in 1992, and is related in a new
edition of Michael Isikoff's book, Uncovering Clinton.

Billionaire Riady made good on his word. Within days of the
conversation he arranged the first round of donations.
Eventually, his family and associates gave $986,000 -- enough to
make them the largest donors to the Democratic Party that year.
Bigger than the trial lawyers association. Bigger than the
teachers' unions.

It's astonishing that we hear this story eight years after the
fact. It was a major event in a hard-fought campaign covered by
thousands of journalists eager to become the next Woodward or
Bernstein.

Yet not one uncovered the true source of the largest donations
made that year to the Clinton-Gore team. Now think of the
coverage lavished on Elian or O.J.

No less astonishing -- we still don't know what return Riady
asked for or earned for his investment. We may never know.

It makes us wonder. ... What promises are flying now between
political patrons and the cash-hungry candidates who want to be
"public" servants?

Will we have to wait eight years to find out? Will we ever know?

This week at TomPaine.com -- In the Back Seat with a Billionaire.
Featuring excerpts from the new edition of Uncovering Clinton
(Three Rivers Press) and documents never before published.


51 posted on 01/22/2006 4:18:40 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: WillT
"Personally, I want to find out what Bush was doing - if anything - with this rat."

Ohhh, come on.
We're not saying our President Bush can do what clinton did. We all know he does not emulate clinton.
We are just pointing out how easy it is to unearth dirt!
52 posted on 01/22/2006 4:21:49 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

There is a big difference between meeting an ordinary citizen for a photo op and meeting a high-powered lobbyist who has worked on Capital Hill for years and is known by quite a few on the Hill. I'm not saying Bush knew him or not, but if he was photographed several times with him I think the odds favor that he did know Abramoff. But let's see all the facts first.


53 posted on 01/22/2006 4:24:10 PM PST by WillT
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To: fabriclady

Actually, several posters have brought up Clinton's various meetings with unsavory characters as a way to explain away Bush's alleged meetings with Abramoff. Let's not say, "Since Bill met criminals then Bush did nothing out of the ordinary." Not a good defense, IMHO. Sure, it's easy to unearth dirt but from what I've read about Abramoff, he had very few redeeming qualities to those who met him. Several writers on NRO have noted this. Just want all the facts, first. Bush claims he didn't know Abramoff. Hopefully, he told the truth.


54 posted on 01/22/2006 4:28:32 PM PST by WillT
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To: FairOpinion

No pics but how 'bout Paul Shanklins :

This land was your land
This land was my land
But then I sold it
To a man from Thailand
From the redwood forests
To the gulf waters
This lands been sold to the red chinese

Or however his most excellent parody against Clinton went.


55 posted on 01/22/2006 4:38:44 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Kaslin

Who cares if he had a picture taken with Abramoff in it? His picture gets taken with thousands of people. It's part of the political life. It doesn't make the President and Abramoff best buddies.


56 posted on 01/22/2006 4:46:27 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Kaslin
I would think the President meets hundreds of people monthly. I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't remember every single one.

Hey Bill! Remember meeing with Wen Ho Lee? Sure ya do!

57 posted on 01/22/2006 4:48:07 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: popdonnelly

I didn't say they were best buddies, but Bush said he cannot recall ever meeting Abramoff. Time magazine says it has uncovered several photos of Bush and Abramoff together. What does that mean? I don't know. All I'm saying is I hope Bush was not best buddies with this guy because he is not a good guy. And Bush would be lying about his relationship with Abramoff. Right now, no one on Capitol Hill knows Abramoff, lol


58 posted on 01/22/2006 4:49:22 PM PST by WillT
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To: WillT
"We all know he does not emulate clinton."

You must not have read my post. As I sometimes do, form an opinion before I read the entire post.

Seems like we are both agreeing, but you want to disagree.
At 70, I just can't keep up with all the young pro's on FR.
I do so enjoy keeping up with your opinions.

I was speaking to the dim libs who always put their big foot in their mouth and then need a bulldozer to remove it.
59 posted on 01/22/2006 4:49:33 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: popdonnelly
Ernie could not be reached for comment...or his pal for that matter.


60 posted on 01/22/2006 4:53:52 PM PST by frankjr
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