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North American Cooperative Security Act
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:s.00853 ^

Posted on 01/22/2006 12:16:42 PM PST by savedbygrace

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To: arnoldpalmerfan
No coincidence that Sen Lugar is involved. He is also behind the Law of the Sea Treaty sovereignty disaster in the making.

Phone calls to Washington Monday are in order.
41 posted on 01/22/2006 5:00:01 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: mthom
He sees a North American Fortress, where the monopolies can rely on the abundant raw materials from Mexico and Canada, especially energy, and the power of a technologically advanced US Military to smash and overwhelm the competition.
42 posted on 01/22/2006 5:14:51 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: hedgetrimmer

The FreeTraders are having a few beers in celebration at the loss of our sovereignty. Hurrah for the New World Order!


43 posted on 01/22/2006 5:18:46 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Bump for football halftime time.


44 posted on 01/22/2006 5:19:54 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Travis McGee; planekT

ping


45 posted on 01/22/2006 5:22:47 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: sheltonmac
Republicans are sponsoring these bills. Considering that "conservatives" supported legislation like NAFTA, GATT and the Patriot Act, it will be interesting to see where they stand on this.

Yeah, I know, a true conservative and/or patriot would never support such garbage like NAFTA, CAFTA and GATT. I can see some provisions of the Patriot Act but we need to go thru it to toss out the bad and keep the good.
46 posted on 01/22/2006 5:24:03 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("Imhotep! Imhotep! IMMMM-HOOOO-TEPP!!!")
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To: EternalVigilance
our Task Force recommends that all three governments define and defend a continental perimeter

Voila. The elimination of the borders of the United States of America.

I searched the bill and didn't see where it eliminates our borders. Maybe you can cut and paste the relevant section? Thanks.

47 posted on 01/22/2006 6:12:49 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: savedbygrace


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


48 posted on 01/22/2006 6:45:09 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: DoughtyOne

It's amazing. We're going to trust a kleptocratic narto-state to defend our southern flank.

Insanity.


49 posted on 01/22/2006 6:46:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The national border of the USA will be a vestigal line on the map only, if our security is left up to Mexican officials.

But you know that. You just can't tell the truth here, without admitting your true agenda.


50 posted on 01/22/2006 6:49:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: B4Ranch

Quisling: A word Norwegians are not very proud of having given to the world: it derives from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a Norwegian politician who collaborated with the Nazis during World War II. He established his name as a synonym for "traitor", someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country, especially by serving in a puppet government. Quisling was found guilty of high treason in 1945, and was executed by firing squad on the 24th October 1945.

51 posted on 01/22/2006 6:51:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
The national border of the USA will be a vestigal line on the map only, if our security is left up to Mexican officials.

I thought the point of the bill was to strengthen the borders of Mexico? Maybe you can show me the part where we leave it up to Mexico? Or where it eliminates our borders?

You just can't tell the truth here, without admitting your true agenda.

Our politicians haven't needed any help to leave our borders wide open so far.

Build a wall. A tall one. Patrol with drones. End catch and release. Punish employers who hire illegals. Start a real time database so employers can tell immediately if a Social Security number is authentic. Deport illegals when we find them. End welfare for illegals. End in-state tuition for illegals.

Does my true agenda meet with your approval?

52 posted on 01/22/2006 7:10:39 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

No, their agenda is to find an excuse NOT to ever build a wall, but to keep the border open to the free flood dirt cheap illegal alien labor.

By pretending that Mexico can defend our southern flank, the OBL's can string out their justification to never build a real border fence.

But you know that.


53 posted on 01/22/2006 7:14:14 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
No, their agenda is to find an excuse NOT to ever build a wall, but to keep the border open to the free flood dirt cheap illegal alien labor.

Their agenda, not my agenda.

By pretending that Mexico can defend our southern flank, the OBL's can string out their justification to never build a real border fence.

It sounds like we're helping Mexico defend their southern flank. No matter what Mexico does or does not do, we need to build our own border fence.

54 posted on 01/22/2006 7:19:07 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You need to read the bill more carefully. You're mischaracterizing it.


55 posted on 01/22/2006 7:22:07 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Travis McGee

I have to agree bud. I hate to say it, but we're becoming Mexico not the other way around. And I mean that in more ways than one. Our corrupted leadership is beginng to give Mexico a run for the money.

I don't say this lightly. With the Narco traffic on the border and serious gang present in the U.S. that is directly attributable to the open border policies of our leaderhip, it's basicly a criminal enterprise to allow what is taking place to continue.

The border issue has demoralized me as no other issue has. There's very little hope that citizen's concerns will be addressed or their hopes and desires respected by the elites.

They don't give a damn that you and I are soaked for billions. They don't care that this group of people out perform every other group in his nation when it comes to crime. They don't care what impact this has had on health care or education.

I'm of a mind that our forefathers would line many in Washington up and shoot them for some of the policy decisions they have made.

Those decisions will destroy what our founding fathers set up for us.

The CAFTA agreement and the AU to follow are a surrender of our sovereignty. I consider that treasonous.


56 posted on 01/22/2006 7:24:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/11/06: Ted Kennedy becomes the designated driver and moral spokesperson for the Democrat party.)
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To: savedbygrace
Please, explain it to me. Some have said it eliminates our border. Can you show me where it does that?
57 posted on 01/22/2006 7:25:07 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: savedbygrace

Does the Liberty Committee have a petition against this yet? Does anyone know how to contact them?


58 posted on 01/22/2006 7:30:24 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

If you're having a debate with others about that, you can take it up with them.

In this case, you made the claim that this bill merely says that we're "helping Mexico defend their southern flank." Where does it say that?

But before answering that, here's a more basic question: Do you support or oppose this bill?


59 posted on 01/22/2006 7:31:39 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You know how it works, so why are you asking?


60 posted on 01/22/2006 7:31:51 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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