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To: Creationist
"Now even if we said that
II Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day,
was true to the creation that would only add 6,000 years. But we most look at the next verse to understand the context.
II Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count long-suffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
This not a statement about time and how God works. God is out side of time is not constrained by the physical laws of this universe (even though he created them). This verse is about how God is long-suffering to our evil ways our sinful nature. How he is patient towards us. How waiting one day for us to change is like a thousand years. And how in a thousand years the millions of lost souls seem to be but a day.

Who told you God is outside of time? You are the one holding God to physical laws by saying the days of creation are 24/7.

Now when and where does the Bible tell us when the 'souls' were created??? Adam was not alive until the breath of life = soul was breathed into his nostrils, yet nothing was said about the soul being apart of the days of creation?
487 posted on 01/26/2006 5:02:20 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
It is seems that you do not believe that the Bible is literal living word of God.

I am not stating anything that would not be known if one reads the Bible and takes it as a literal meaning. If you add up the generations up to Christ it is approximately 4000 years plus the 2000 since his Death Burial and Resurrections. If this is to be a literal meaning then the creation day of 24 hours is a literal meaning. If we must believe in the literal plan of salvation then the creation day of 24 hours is literal.
day = yowm in Hebrew = from an unused root mean. to be hot; as day (as the warm hours), (from sunrise to sunset, or from one sunset to the next)

Satan the father of all deception will have this argument going until the Return of Jesus. At that time we all will find out the true answer to the question.

Philippians 2:12-13
12. Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence,-------work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Here is a solution to the supposed contradictions from a creation seminar book by Dr. Kent Hovind.

1. Genesis 1:11 has the trees made on day 3 before man;
Genesis 2:8 has the trees made on day 6 after man.
2. Genesis 1:20 has birds made out of the water on day 5;
Genesis 2:19 has birds made out of the ground (after man) on day 6.
3. Genesis 1:24,25 has the animals made on day 6 before man; Genesis 2:19 has the animals made of day 6 after man.

A careful reading of the two chapters will show the solution for each of the supposed contradictions.

1.
a. Chapter 1 tells the entire story in the order it happened.
b. Genesis 2:4-6 gives a quick summary of the first five days of creation.
c. Genesis 2:7-25 is describing only the events that took place on day 6 in the Garden of Eden.
d. The trees described in Genesis 2:8 are only in the Garden (the rest of the world is already full of trees from day 3). The purpose of this second creation of trees may have been to let Adam see that God did have power to create, that He was not just taking credit for the existing world. Notice that the second creation of trees was still on day 6 and was only those trees that are "pleasant to the sight and good for food."

2.
The birds created out of the ground on day 6 are only one of each "kind" so that Adam can name them and select a wife. The rest of the world is full of birds from day 5.

3.
Genesis 2:19 is describing only the animals created n the Garden, after man. The purpose of this second batch of animals being created was so that Adam could name them (Genesis 2:19) and select a wife (Genesis 2:20). Adam did not find a suitable one (God knew he wouldn't), so God made Eve (Genesis 2:21-22).
There are no contradictions between these two chapters. Chapter 2 only describes in more detail the events in the Garden of Eden on day 6. If ancient man had written the Bible (as some scoffers say), he would never have made it say that the light was made before the sun! Many ancient cultures worshiped the sun as the source of life. God is light. God made the light before He made the sun so we could see that He (not the sun) is the source of life.

May God Bless you.
498 posted on 01/26/2006 8:30:59 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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