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To: SuzyQue

"MM - even the Bible implies that it is allegorical:
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Thanks. I also quoted the 2Peter passage. It's always been pretty easy for believers to understand that a deity is not constrained by human measurements of time.

I really believe that most Christians and Jews are able to understand that the creation story is allegorical. The central belief is that creation was done by God. How God did it is not really the issue, nor can it be answered in a couple of chapters in Genesis. It's also unimportant, given the assumption that God is omnipotent.


37 posted on 01/22/2006 9:09:47 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
I admire your insight on this subject. My grandfather, a Baptist minister, had similar thoughts and concepts on various aspects of the Bible. He never dared preach these thoughts but we discussed them often during my teen years and later. To me he was a Renaissance man...he was very scholarly and learned, continually working to expand his knowledge base, he was also a scientist and a math teacher, could rebuild any engine or mechanical contraption, and was a mean gardener. lol

Anyway, thank you for your insight.

45 posted on 01/22/2006 9:20:15 AM PST by Emmalein (To each his/her own.)
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To: MineralMan
The central belief is that creation was done by God. How God did it is not really the issue, nor can it be answered in a couple of chapters in Genesis. It's also unimportant, given the assumption that God is omnipotent.

True. How the universe(s) was actually created is something that I find to be facinating, but of not real consequence to my faith. Is it really more miraculous that G-d could create the universe we see in 6 days or that His act of creation was actually 15 billion years ago, when he spoke The Word, and the universe sprang from a BigBang (let there be light) with the physical laws and properties we have become familiar with. Those same physical laws that allow and perhaps guarantee the creation of Life, to keep Him company?

If you would like to see the handiwork of a awesome, powerful, and artistic G-d, click here. In the linked image, which covers an incredibly tiny spot of the heavens, every single point of light and smudge you see is a galaxy. I find this to be truely awe inspiring.

75 posted on 01/22/2006 11:47:36 AM PST by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: MineralMan
The central belief is that creation was done by God. How God did it is not really the issue, nor can it be answered in a couple of chapters in Genesis. It's also unimportant, given the assumption that God is omnipotent.

You may be a godless atheist, my FRiend, but you're closer to Truth than many who claim to be followers of Christ.

150 posted on 01/23/2006 4:05:55 PM PST by Terabitten (If you've abused the public trust, the public should never trust you again. Throw the bums out!)
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To: MineralMan; SuzyQue
It can not be an allegory and if it wasn't true, it would mean that God was a liar, which would wipe out his moral authority.

The proof that Creation is not an allegory is found here:

Romans 5:12  Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,
and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

13  (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses,
even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,
who is the figure of him that was to come.

There was no death upon Earth until Adam sinned.

285 posted on 01/24/2006 8:07:29 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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