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A Hard Kick From John Wayne's Gun
New York Times ^
| January 21, 2006
| STACEY STOWE
Posted on 01/21/2006 3:25:46 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
Unless a rescue plan is worked out or a new buyer comes forward, the gun-manufacturing plant in New Haven, with about 200 employees, will close on March 31.I wonder if CZUSA would be interested in yet another American Firearms company? They bought Dan Wesson last year.
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:17:05 AM PST
by
P8riot
(When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
To: DustyMoment
This is the result of anti-gun nutjobs who have repeatedly assaulted the firearms industry. With the legislation allowing victims to sue gun manufacturers for the acts committed by gun-wielding murderers. When we allow the courts to impose draconian punishments on innocent businesses, People lose their jobs and factories go elsewhere. Moving your manufacturing site to a different country does not preclude you from lawsuits involving the use of your product.
To: GadareneDemoniac
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:27:34 AM PST
by
MinuteGal
(Ahoy there! - "FReeps Ahoy 4" will embark for the Caribbean. The cruise thread is up and running!)
To: Pharmboy
The leftist tick sucks another host dead.
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:34:32 AM PST
by
Leisler
("For English, please press two.")
To: opinionator
Moving your manufacturing site to a different country does not preclude you from lawsuits involving the use of your product.
Perhaps not, but it precludes the dimwits in the Congress from being able to do anything but ban the product from foreign imports. In essence, it renders any trial activity relatively pointless.
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:39:38 AM PST
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: Pharmboy
I've got an 1892 Winchester down in my shop for repair due to a broken spring. Darned thing is only 106 years old and and it already needs work!
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:42:43 AM PST
by
230FMJ
(...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
To: 230FMJ
If you write them, they might replace the spring...free.
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:45:48 AM PST
by
Pharmboy
(The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
To: Pharmboy
It was a cool gun. It is outclassed by modern firearms, though. This like being upset that a flintlock will no longer be made.
What saddens me is that they are closing the plant. If I had the money, I would buy the plant and re-tool it to make the best modern firearms possible.
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posted on
01/21/2006 4:49:39 AM PST
by
Sensei Ern
(Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
To: willyd
I wonder if this is another Union victory. Either that, or liability or both....
To: willyd; Dustbunny; Thermalseeker
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posted on
01/21/2006 5:10:00 AM PST
by
raybbr
(ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
To: Sensei Ern
" If I had the money, I would buy the plant and re-tool it to make the best modern firearms possible."
Thats what Marlin did when they built the MR-7 bolt action rifle, they put so much into the quality of the rifles that they couldn't sell them at even a break-even price.
They only made those for a few years.
Damn fine rifles if you can find a used one.
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posted on
01/21/2006 5:13:44 AM PST
by
Beagle8U
(An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
To: Sensei Ern
"What saddens me is that they are closing the plant. If I had the money, I would buy the plant and re-tool it to make the best modern firearms possible."
That would be nice. Maybe reopen to make M1 Garands for the people of the US to help rebuild the old militias of the past.
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posted on
01/21/2006 5:20:41 AM PST
by
MaDeuce
(Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
To: Thermalseeker
I thought the ability to sue gun manufacturers for crime in your area was struck down recently. I think it was the unions....isn't it obvious that unions have cost more Americans jobs than anyone else? It seems like every company that has a union these days recieves some sort of handout from the Federal government in order to continue to exist. The airlines were bailed out and are still facing bankrupcy in some cases because of this union or that. Don't the wokers understand that businesses exist to make a profit? If you erode that opportunity enough, companies will fold or seek the next best idea (usually somewhere with a less oppressive tax system). Outsourcing isn't the issue, it's a fact of life with a global economy. Unions are the issue if you ask me.
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:01:28 AM PST
by
willyd
(No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
To: Pharmboy
While the article never states it, it does say repeating rifle so I assume they are Model 94's. Miroku has been building the 1885's for decades and I thought I was the only one that complained. Just wait until the new 94's roll off the line with pencil thin barrels and pimp shined stocks.
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:11:19 AM PST
by
03A3
To: willyd
IMHO, its a result of the management and bean counters running amok. The latest fad, short magnums, was an answer to a question nobody asked.There are gun makers who are doing just fine in America...
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:25:44 AM PST
by
chadwimc
To: Pharmboy
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:33:43 AM PST
by
VOA
To: Sensei Ern
Hornady just came out with a polymer tipped spitzer in .30-30, .45-70, 450 Marlin, .444 Marlin that will keep the lever actions going another 150 years. Makes [according to the reviews] a .30-30 a 250 yd. rifle. Takes a .45-70 zeroed at 100 yds., and reduces the bullet drop at 300 yds. from 9' to 25".
Lever guns are the best brush guns in the business. More deer have probably been dropped with .30-30s than any other caliber.
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posted on
01/21/2006 6:58:10 AM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: Pharmboy
Winchester will continue to build shotguns. They are also discontinuing their model 70 bolt actions. This is probably because Winchester is owned by the same company that owns Browning. Browning will be the company that makes the bolt actions.Looks more like bean counting than anything else.
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posted on
01/21/2006 7:01:25 AM PST
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: PzLdr
Winchester should come out with a shotgun built on the Browning patent for the old Auto-5 if both company's are owned by the same parent company.
Both Remington and Savage have purchased the rights to do so in the past and sold a bunch of them.
It would give Browning the ability to build a slightly cheaper model of the same gun, without cheapening the Browning name.
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posted on
01/21/2006 8:42:33 AM PST
by
Beagle8U
(An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
To: RadioAstronomer
I have my share of Winchesters. I am sorry to see this plant close. Same, same.
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posted on
01/21/2006 8:44:13 AM PST
by
Osage Orange
(Why does John McCain always look like a mule eating cockleburrs?)
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