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To: colorcountry

Color country,

It is apparent to me that you are sincere in your beliefs, if to my view a little misguided.

I know you think you are older than I am, let’s go with that for a minute, does that mean you are always right, must I wait to be the oldest to ever be right? Once I am the “Oldest of all living”, am I always right?

Age has nothing to do with matters of philosophy, or religion.

In response to your “post about lies: I know how television interview shows work, you and the interviewer are in a room, there is a camera running for 4 to 8 hours. They ask all sorts of things, and push different agendas, buttons and or ideas, trying to get “something interesting”. After the interview is over, days can be spent editing those hours down to about 17 minutes of “show” there is no way to avoid some contextual error. I would need to read the entire transcript to know really what was being said and why. If the interviewer had approached these questions preceded by specific questions, I might well have given the same answers. I would have been trying to convey the truth. I would have failed, because of editing.

Simply put not everyone in the church is ready for some truths, just as a 3 year old is not ready to drive. So, no, not everyone in the church believes every doctrine taught by the church. Polygamy is not doctrinal at this time because we have received a commandment (Official Declaration #1, Doctrine and Covenants), forbidding it at this time. (It’s illegal, and we follow the laws of the land, and I don’t think we are righteous enough to live this way.) Will plural marriage exist in the celestial kingdom? Yes, this practice is not offensive to god as he ordained it in many instances in the past for righteous men.

This earth is a type and a shadow. When cows have calves, do they grow up to be chickens? When cats have kittens do they grow up to be mice? When gods have children, will they not grow up to be Gods? If we are the children of god is this not what this means? God our father was specific in his choice of title. He did not say god our Creator, or parent or Progenitor, or Mother, but God our Father. Jesus Chris, and Adam were in the “Express image of God”. They were male; does God have extra organs just so they could appear “Normal”? This is illogical in the extreme. True doctrine is never illogical when viewed from God’s perspective. If God calls us his children that is what we are. If God says he is our father, then that is what he is. There is no room for misunderstanding here to confuse anyone who is not “stuck” with a belief stronger than their faith.

I have received a witness, one that stays sharp in my mind as the years dim and other memories fade, this witness stands sharper then reality itself. God lives. His son Jesus Christ is the only begotten of the father and stands at the right hand of God. There is no other way to God, but through the atonement of Jesus Christ. The church of Jesus Christ Of latter day saints is the true church, restored to its fullness and glory in these the latter days. I believe this to be true with all my heart, might mind and soul, because God told me so, and in a way that I dare not deny. No mere mortal can shake my faith because I know from whence my testimony comes. I truly hope that your faith in what you believe will lead you to do what is right in the eyes of the Lord, and that you will hear the words “Well done my true and faithful servant” when your time comes to meet him. I appreciate you attempt to share that faith with me, and will not “bash” with those of sincere heart as you seem to be.


373 posted on 01/24/2006 8:46:18 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
You took my "twinkle in daddy's eye," as a reference to my age. I may or may not be older than you, and you're right it doesn't matter.

I was simply pointing out to you that I have many years of LDS indoctrination. I was Born in the Covenant, baptized and confirmed by my father at age 8, Baptized for the dead many times between age 12 and 18, Graduated from Primary, MIA, and Seminary, Married in the Temple.

You do not need to lead me to the link of "official church doctrine," and that was what my post was responding to.

I know well, what it is, I understand it fully....it is not biblical....it is not what traditional Christians would call "Christian." To my Biblical understanding it is "Anti-Christian."

It is probably better for me not to try to challenge your faith....for you it is necessary at this time.
374 posted on 01/24/2006 9:01:47 AM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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