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To: GarySpFc
Europe is spiritually dead.

Just tell this to our Pope Benedict or to the Poles.

As a theologian I have studied both.

Which church are you belonging to?

52 posted on 01/20/2006 10:01:28 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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To: Atlantic Bridge
I am a member of the church of Christ, but I have studied all of the theology for all of the major denominations. BTW, one of my best friends held the St. Thomas Aquinas Chair at Harvard. I have also worked on two major Bible translations. Even Pope Benedict believes Europe has a major spiritual problem. Here is but one article you might read, which shows Europe's moral bankruptcy.

Prophet of Decline An interview with Oriana Fallaci.
53 posted on 01/20/2006 12:20:26 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Atlantic Bridge; jb6; x5452
Please read the complete article at the link.

Pope Benedict XVI: Enemy of Jihad

In choosing Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger to succeed Pope John Paul II as Pope Benedict XVI, the Catholic Church has cast a vote for the survival of Europe and the West. “Europe will be Islamic by the end of the century,” historian Bernard Lewis predicted not long ago; however, judging from the writings of the new Pope, he is not likely to be sanguine about this transition. For one thing, the new Pope seems to be aware of the grave danger Europeans face: he has called upon Europe to recover its Christian roots “if it truly wants to survive.”

For while his predecessor kissed the Qur’an and pursued a consistent line of conciliation toward the Islamic world, despite numerous provocations and attacks against Catholics in Muslim countries, the new Pope Benedict XVI, while no less charitable, has been a bit more forthcoming about the reality of how Islam challenges the Catholic Church, Christianity, and even the post-Christian West. He has spoken up for the rights of converts from Islam to Christianity, who live under a death sentence in Islamic countries and increasingly live in fear even in the West. He has even spoken approvingly of Christians proselytizing Muslims — a practice that enrages Muslims and is against the law in many Islamic countries.

The new Pope has criticized Europe’s reluctance to acknowledge its Christian roots for fear of offending Islam’s rapidly growing and increasingly influential presence in European countries — a presence which, as historian Bat Ye’or demonstrates in her book Eurabia, has been actively encouraged and facilitated by European leaders for over three decades. “What offends Islam,” said Cardinal Ratzinger, “is the lack of reference to God, the arrogance of reason, which provokes fundamentalism.” He has criticized multiculturalism, “which is so constantly and passionately encouraged and supported,” because it “sometimes amounts to an abandonment and disavowal of what is our own.”

He contrasts the modern-day resurgence of Islam with the enervation of Europe. In old Europe, he has said, “we are moving toward a dictatorship of relativism which does not recognize anything as definitive and has as its highest value one’s own ego and one's own desires.” Islam, on the other hand, is anything but relativistic: “The rebirth of Islam is due in part to the new material richness acquired by Muslim countries, but mainly to the knowledge that it is able to offer a valid spiritual foundation for the life of its people, a foundation that seems to have escaped from the hands of old Europe.”

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Europe, the new Pope has written, “appears to be at the start of its decline and fall.” It may be too late, as Bat Ye’or believes, to arrest that decline and fall. However, the first thing a physician does when he treats a disease is identify the problem. No healing can proceed from a misdiagnosis. It is heartening to see that Pope Benedict XVI has already, in various speeches and writings before his accession to the papacy, dared to speak more clearly about the threat that Islam poses to Western civilization than his predecessor — for all his many and remarkable gifts — ever quite managed to do.
55 posted on 01/20/2006 12:33:27 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Atlantic Bridge

The Pope and Russian Orthodox church are already cooperating on promoting church vlaues due to their sad state of declient across Europe.


57 posted on 01/20/2006 12:41:07 PM PST by x5452
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