Fair Share law a Trojan horse

Waterbury Republican-American ^ | January 18, 2006 | Editorial

[darbymcgill]

Be realistic. Do your kids claim their allowance at income tax time?

So you really didn't mean "anyone that employ"...

You meant only certain employers. Which is where we are now. But you still didn't answer "why?"...

The employer carries liability insurance to protect himself and his business.

I'm sure then that you would agree that employers who do pay most if not all of an employee's health insurance, should have a say in the employee's hobbies, extracurricular activities, speeding tickets, smoking, eating, etc...

[Graybeard58]

Nope...Without Wal Mart paid benefits, you and I pay for state sponsored health care for these people whether we shop at Wal Mart or not..

Again, I'll ask you, will you pay less or more if Wal-Mart didn't provide the jobs at all? Will you reply again, as you did before that:

Wal Mart is selling products that other American retailers used to sell to Americans, made by Americans

Thereby implying that if only Mom and Pop still employed these folks they would somehow get generous benefits that you as a tax payer wouldn't have to pay for.

Nope...Without Wal Mart paid benefits, you and I pay for state sponsored health care for these people whether we shop at Wal Mart or not..

Why just Wal-Mart? Why not all the employers in the country?

[Iscool]

Thereby implying that if only Mom and Pop still employed these folks they would somehow get generous benefits that you as a tax payer wouldn't have to pay for.

A lot of the junk Wal Mart sells comes from factories in China 'owned' by Wal Mart...I'm not talking just the store clerks...Thousands of Americans use to build the products that the chinese Wal Mart employees now build...

[Graybeard58]

Thousands of Americans use to build the products that the chinese Wal Mart employees now build..

That problem goes way beyond Wal-Mart. Look around in Lowes, Penny's, Sears etc.

China's low wage structure is putting a crimp on Mexico, whose wages used to be the lowest and Japan whose wages used to be the lowest and the list goes on.

China has what other countries do not and that is billions of people and that makes them cheap.

[darbymcgill]

Without Wal Mart paid benefits, you and I pay for state sponsored health care for these people whether we shop at Wal Mart or not...

Oh... so the people who shop at Wal Mart are paying higher so that the non-Wal Mart shoppers don't have to pay higher taxes? Is that right?

Ok.... and how about we have a hurricane tax in the gulf coast and part of the eastern sea board... mmmmm let's see, a tornado tax in the midwest (higher rates in TX and OK of course), a wild fire and mudslide tax in CA.... you may be on to something here...

Better yet, why not just have people pay their own way.... I don't get it....

[darbymcgill]

Thousands of Americans use to build the products that the chinese Wal Mart employees now build...

And why do you think that happened?

[Iscool]

Better yet, why not just have people pay their own way.... I don't get it....

At a part time job at 8-10 bucks an hour, people can't pay...It's that simple...Either we as taxpayers pay, or Wal Mart pays...So what makes more sense to you???

[darbymcgill]

At a part time job at 8-10 bucks an hour, people can't pay...It's that simple...Either we as taxpayers pay, or Wal Mart pays..

Why are those the only two options...

If people refused to work at Wal Mart for the wages and "benefits" offered, Wal Mart would have two options: Raise the wages and/or benefits, or go out of business... simple as that... there are other jobs to be had besides Wal Mart, strange as that may seem to you...

Wal Mart is owned by the share holders... If the managers of Wal Mart were not maximizing the shareholder's investments, they would be fired. It is their job to make money.

It is the job of the employee to maximize their investments as well. If you can't afford your current or anticipated life style on a Wal Mart salary, work somewhere else or change your life style.... If the government wasn't passing out free health care, where do you think the employees would go?

[nh1]

I agree, in addition to being ridiculous, it's part of the cause of the problem. If more people had to pay for their own health care/insurance you wouldn't see cost rising so quickly.

[Gabz]

At a part time job at 8-10 bucks an hour, people can't pay...It's that simple...

UHM.......are you really even paying atention to what you are writing? How many part-time jobs have you had in your life that offered you benefits?

Either we as taxpayers pay, or Wal Mart pays...So what makes more sense to you???

I don't agree with socialized medicine, which you appear to support, but you are forgetting that these people ARE working and therefore are ALSO taxpayers............sheesh.

[Gabz]

If more people had to pay for their own health care/insurance you wouldn't see cost rising so quickly.

Truer words could not be said.

We pay a good amount of money every month for our share of the insurance we have through my husband's employer, we rarely use it, but it's there when we need it. That is why it is called insurance. Just like the homeowners insurance premium I have to go pay tomorrow, haven't made any claims, but who knows what havoc could happen during the next wind, rain, or snow storm we get. And I won't even mention the problem there seems to be in this county with arson fires of late.

[Schwaeky]

Or lay off enough in-state workers and bring in employees from out of state to work stores in towns near the various state lines (Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and West Virginia) those employees are not covered by the law.

[Realism]

I'm sure then that you would agree that employers who do pay most if not all of an employee's health insurance, should have a say in the employee's hobbies, extracurricular activities, speeding tickets, smoking, eating, etc...

Maybe we should all be required to drop a DNA sample to the insurance co. so they can test for genetic defects to calculate risk.

Is it any wonder why people are dropping insurance coverage? Some employers even give incentive to drop. Meanwhile as less pay in to the system coverage gets more and more expensive. We need to break this cycle leading us to national health care now.

[darbymcgill]

Is it any wonder why people are dropping insurance coverage?

Why should they pay for it when it's given away?

We need to break this cycle leading us to national health care now.

I couldn't agree more... But I don't think we can do that by forcing certain people to pay for someone else's health care...