Posted on 01/18/2006 7:07:38 AM PST by yoe
No, no, no.
It only means that when Republicans are in charge.
And .. it was okay to listen in and record the cell phone conversations of the Republican Speaker of the House - by democrats - with no warrant and even "no cause". But .. I didn't hear anybody on the democrat side getting upset over that incident.
I don't think I would be outraged if Clinton had "tapped" only the international communications of those contacted by, or who had contacted known foreign enemies, at a time when Congress had authorized Use of Force against those same enemies, in what amounted to a declaration of war upon them, in all but name. There are exceptions to the general rule that to be reasonable a search must be done with a warrant. This is one of them, IMHO. The Constitutional requirement is only for "reasonable" not, "with warrant" searches.
Clinton of course did far more than that, and without any such Congressional authorization.
"No one, not even liberals, are disturbed by the U.S. spying on foreign foes."
They're not? What's all the screaming about then?
"the fact that warrantless spying is being done on American citizens"
Proof, names, dates etc??
It might serve you to find out what our foes are actually arguing, and your fellow posters for that matter. Read the thread above.
Proof, names, dates etc??
Don't read the paper much, huh? The Bush Administration has already admitted that they have engaged in these activities since late 2001, and have had two AGs sign off on their authority to do so.
So the cute "Proof, names, dates etc??" tactic of trying to make me look like some kind of nut simply paints you as highly uninformed and out of your league.
"Call me old school, but I don't like the idea of big brother, no matter how much I like current leaders."
No, you would rather not do anything to protect us and get your butt blown up. Choices? Think!
Huh? Toon and Algore did the same thing E-SPY HYPOCRISY - where was the outrage from either side. Toon and Gore were doing it for political purposes, which should have produced plenty of outrage, whereas Bush is doing it to protect us.
Toon performed warrantless search of Aldrich Ames personal property, and I for one am damn glad and cheered that action. Only problem was that Ames didn't fry.
Sophistry gets you no where. You missed the point entirely.
Someone owns a dictionary! :-)
Good Lord. Is that really how simple your thought process is?
Thanks for the input. You added a lot to the discussion.
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