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To: Turbopilot

Everytime I see an airbus announcement, it's for some country or company saying they really sorta kinda are definately going to buy an airbus sometime in the next five years.

When I see boeing announcements, they are firm planned sales.


5 posted on 01/17/2006 12:18:14 PM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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To: flashbunny

These are claimed to be firm, signed, definite sales, and Airbus has claimed to have taken a down payment on each of those airplanes. However, the amount of any such down payment is not public, and it's entirely possible, especially from all the hopeful startups (some of which don't yet even have an operating certificate), that the deposit in some cases was 1 Euro or some other token amount. Airbus has long said (and I agree) that deliveries, not even firm orders, is what counts, since some portion of even firm orders always get cancelled, and that portion is higher with startups that have yet even to start operating.

I believe that there is a definition of "order" under which Airbus sold 1,111 airplanes in 2005, and I believe that there is a definition of "order" under which Boeing sold 1,002 airplanes in 2005. I can't say for sure, but prior history leads me to speculate that the problem is those definitions may not be the same.


8 posted on 01/17/2006 12:26:07 PM PST by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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