To: DaveyB
" Oh! What was Darwin expecting?"
What has been found.
" Let's see we started with moths - we ended up with moths - yep that does it evolution all right!"
It was a demonstration of natural selection, not speciation. Nobody every claimed it was anything more than that.
" Or of course it might just be that genes that were present to begin with, expressed themselves."
Obviously you don't know anything about the study. It was a demonstration that two different color variations had differential success depending on the bark coloration. With a dark bark, the light colored moth decreased in number. With a light bark, the dark moth decreased. Nobody ever said it was a demonstration of mutation. You are attacking a strawman.
"Nebraska man is a dramatic example how if you presume evolution you find evidence to support your framework - but then you might just be being played for the fool."
It was never accepted by science and was discarded with a few years. It's a great example of how peer review works. It's a blip on the scientific landscape, yet creationists have latched on to it as some sort of sacred component of evolutionary theory.
127 posted on
01/17/2006 2:17:43 PM PST by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: CarolinaGuitarman
creationists have latched on to it as some sort of sacred component of evolutionary theory.Only because they think they can twist it into some critique of the scientific method or scientists themselves.
It's extremely ironic - Nebraska Man is a great example of how the system works. Nebraska Man shows that poor work gets exposed.
I suspect they don't actually know what Nebraska Man really was, any more than they understand the peppered moth experiment was all about.
129 posted on
01/17/2006 2:21:59 PM PST by
highball
("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
To: CarolinaGuitarman
Q: Oh! What was Darwin expecting?
A: What has been found. Why is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely-graduated organic chain; and this is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against the theory. -- Charles Darwin
The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. -- Gould
If the fossil record is as expected - why abandon Darwinism for punctuated equilibrium?
In the end the emperor has no clothes and God gets the last laugh!
133 posted on
01/17/2006 2:25:57 PM PST by
DaveyB
(Peace follows victory - never before)
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