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To: rmlew

"1. Israel existed for many years without US aid."

Was that when they were occupied by the Romans? You have me there. But if you think the modern state of Israel would exist without US aid then you live in a fantasy world.


"2. Israeli citizenship for Pollard is admitting to the spying. It is being honest."


They don't need to admit it. We caught him. If they were being honest they would not be spying on our Navy's technology and passing it on to the Chinese.



"Obviously you know nothing about the incident.
First of all, it was a mistaken identity during war. Secondly, Israel used Mystere jets bought from France."

You are correct that they used French jets. I forgot that detail, but my overall point did not lose its validity. Israel was still rcieving large amounts of aid from the U.S. at the time of the attack on the Liberty. And I know enough about the incident to know that Israeli jets killed 34 U.S. servicemen. The DCI at that time was Richard Helms and he felt it was a deliberate attack.


82 posted on 01/16/2006 10:14:54 PM PST by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tommorrow to live in world without crime, and go back tothe circuit riding motocross)
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To: Johnnyboy2000
Was that when they were occupied by the Romans? You have me there. But if you think the modern state of Israel would exist without US aid then you live in a fantasy world
What aid did Israel get from the US from 1948 until 1968?

If they were being honest they would not be spying on our Navy's technology and passing it on to the Chinese.
1. I'm not sure what you are referring to.
2. Israel should not be helping Red China. Of course the CIA shoulkd not be helping the PLO.

You are correct that they used French jets. I forgot that detail, but my overall point did not lose its validity. Israel was still rcieving large amounts of aid from the U.S. at the time of the attack on the Liberty. And I know enough about the incident to know that Israeli jets killed 34 U.S. servicemen. The DCI at that time was Richard Helms and he felt it was a deliberate attack.
Has Helms ever admitted why the Liberty was in the area after LBJ promised to withdraw all US ships from the area? Has he explained why we refused Israel's request for a Naval Liason, which would have prevented such an incident?
The CIA and NSA covered their @ss at the expense of American sailors just as we did with the Pueblo incident.

87 posted on 01/16/2006 10:23:37 PM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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