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German cannibal 'not a murderer'
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Posted on 01/16/2006 4:52:46 PM PST by traumer

A self-confessed cannibal has described how he killed and partially ate a man he met via the internet in March 2001, at a retrial in Germany.

Armin Meiwes was convicted of manslaughter two years ago and was jailed for eight-and-a-half years. Last year, an appeal court ordered a retrial after state prosecutors argued Meiwes was guilty of murder.

The 44-year-old denies the charge and says he simply carried out a willing victim's instructions. If found guilty, Meiwes could face a life sentence.

'Killing on request'

Meiwes repeated much of his confession from his first trial during his three-hour testimony.

I didn't know whether I should pray to the devil or to God - Armin Meiwes He admitted killing 43-year-old German-based computer specialist Bernd-Juergen Brandes at Meiwes' home in the town of Rotenburg.

Meiwes told the court how he severed Mr Brandes' penis and that they both tried to eat it without success. He said he hoped Mr Brandes would die of blood loss or throw himself to his death from a window.

"I wanted to eat him, but I didn't want to kill him," Meiwes told the court.

Brandes steadily lost more blood and finally became unconscious - at which point Meiwes decided to pray, he said. "I didn't know whether I should pray to the devil or to God," Meiwes said.

Believing his victim to be dead he stabbed him in the neck, he said. It was only when he saw the video of the crime that he realised Brandes had still been breathing.

Meiwes' legal team argued the defendant was "killing on request", a form of illegal euthanasia that carries a maximum five-year sentence.

Prosecutors will have to show that Meiwes was driven by a base desire of his own to kill his victim.

The case continues.


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; meiwes
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1 posted on 01/16/2006 4:52:47 PM PST by traumer
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Not a murderer. A victim of the society...
2 posted on 01/16/2006 4:54:26 PM PST by traumer
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To: traumer

In this country, they could invoke the 'right to privacy.'


3 posted on 01/16/2006 4:56:05 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Believing his victim to be dead he stabbed him in the neck, he said.

I always wait until the victim is dead before doing any sort of neck stabbing.

4 posted on 01/16/2006 4:56:35 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: traumer

Just having a friend for dinner.


5 posted on 01/16/2006 4:58:13 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: traumer

Guess it's just a lifestyle choice.


6 posted on 01/16/2006 4:59:00 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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Meat is meat.


7 posted on 01/16/2006 4:59:28 PM PST by Fawn (http://www.grab.com/fun/specials/licensetopill)
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To: traumer
The 44-year-old denies the charge and says he simply carried out a willing victim's instructions.

Seems reasonable. We have legal documents in this country to put our instructions in writing.

8 posted on 01/16/2006 5:00:42 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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Meat is meat.

Well, I'm never coming to a dinner party at YOUR house.

:-)

9 posted on 01/16/2006 5:01:02 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: traumer

they convict over a diet? /sarc


10 posted on 01/16/2006 5:03:04 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: traumer

He cut off the guys p[enis and tried to eat it then he murdered the man and the Germans seem to see little wrong with that. This guy is a poster child for the death penalty.


11 posted on 01/16/2006 5:05:16 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Paleo Conservative

It's that cookbook out of "Twilight Zone" named "How to Serve People"

(Saw it on first run so drop dead ya 30 minus punks)


12 posted on 01/16/2006 5:06:53 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: traumer

Why is this monster still alive?


13 posted on 01/16/2006 5:07:49 PM PST by CyberSpartacus
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To: traumer
Calling Dr. Lecter. Dr Hannibal Lecter. Please report to surgery STAT!
14 posted on 01/16/2006 5:09:24 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: atomicpossum

The way I cook? You'd never realize what you were eating.


15 posted on 01/16/2006 5:10:00 PM PST by Fawn (http://www.grab.com/fun/specials/licensetopill)
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"says he simply carried out a willing victim's instructions..."


What does the victim say?


16 posted on 01/16/2006 5:11:24 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: traumer

A logical step for a culture of death.


17 posted on 01/16/2006 5:14:34 PM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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How could such a horrible thing happen in GERMANY?


18 posted on 01/16/2006 5:17:12 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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Meiwes told the court how he severed Mr Brandes' penis and that they both tried to eat it without success.

I can't help but wonder why it wasn't a success.

19 posted on 01/16/2006 5:36:44 PM PST by Serb5150 (Mir Boziji – Hristos se Rodi!)
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To: dennisw

That would be "To Serve Man".


20 posted on 01/16/2006 5:38:10 PM PST by Antoninus II
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