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To: Dog Gone
Fairly construed, the Fourth has nothing to do with takings or due process.

Really? You don't think that protections against unreasonable seizures should carry weight against government takings to ensure that the takings are reasonable? Didn't Fifth Amendment takings have to first show that there weren't other reasonable alternatives for roads or building sites before a taking happened? Withouth the Fourth, one could take the first thing they saw, which is pretty much what they're doing now after Kelo.

I could see an argument in the case where there aren't other competing or influencing mentions in the Constitution, but when there are (as I believe there are in this case), then one should be balanced against the other to ensure that the interpretations are fair and consistent.

If Kelo didn't consider Fourth Amendment protections, would that be a possible avenue for a new case to give the Court a chance to reverse their Kelo ruling?

-PJ -PJ

170 posted on 01/15/2006 4:16:51 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
If Kelo didn't consider Fourth Amendment protections, would that be a possible avenue for a new case to give the Court a chance to reverse their Kelo ruling?

I suppose, but I'd consider it a long shot. The Fourth and Fifth Amendments are talking about entirely separate things and it takes a pretty tortured reading of the Constitution to argue that either impacts the other.

Don't get me wrong, I still can't find the constitutional basis for the Kelo decision. It is just as bad law as Roe or the original commerce clause decisions. All of those cases seem clearly to me to be decisions that were made on the basis of policy with some effort made to cloak them in constitutional reasoning. Horrible law from the purists or strict constructionist reasoning.

177 posted on 01/15/2006 4:35:15 PM PST by Dog Gone
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