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Why God Chose the Jews
L.A. Times ^ | 1-14-06 | Andrew Klavan

Posted on 01/14/2006 5:04:46 PM PST by cgk

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To: veronica; Baraonda; Bella_Bru
Doubt it. As you can see with a click, the spelling holocost (holocost+holohoax) small is frequently used in conjunction with holohoax at less reputable sites. After all, it was a hoax, designed to extort money and persecute palestinians. Commonly used at the places you can discuss the pernicious fraud perpetrated on the world by the Jews, known as the holocost/holohoax or on occasion HoloCost/HoloHoax.

Simply code, any Jewobsessive posting here picked it up immediately.

121 posted on 01/15/2006 6:59:03 AM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: Conservative Goddess

"Thank You for taking them under your wing...and showing them the truth about firearms. I've had this dicussion on more than one occassion with Jewish friends who are virulently anti-gun. I just don't understand how they can be anti-self-defense....after all that history"

Don't debate them and tell them why they]'re wrong - take them to the range (with appropriate eye and ear protection) and let them see for themselves why they hate guns. Odds are they'll go and buy one later.


122 posted on 01/15/2006 7:07:44 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Windsong

"This is Old Testament. New Testament says "He who rejects Me also rejects the one who sent me." and this little gem: "Whosoever rejects me in front of men, so shall I reject Him on the day of Judgement in the Father's presence"."

The Jewish view is that man doesn't need any intercession between God and Man. Also, we aren't going to take the word of some "apostle" that the "eternal covenant" isn't.

Replacement theology - one of the ideological basis of anti-semitism - rears it's head on a thread about the same subject. Nice!


123 posted on 01/15/2006 7:10:49 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Bear_Slayer
How odd that G_d would choose the jews.

It's not so odd -- the Jews chose G-D.

124 posted on 01/15/2006 7:19:24 AM PST by Alouette (The Anti-Borg - You Will NOT be Assimilated!)
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To: Pragmatist

" Right on. I'm so sick of this Jewish Supremacist garbage. Does any Gentile really think about how atrociously arrogant the belief that the Jews are God's chosen is? That means anyone who is not a Jew (Gentiles) are not God's chosen ones. If the Gentiles are not God's chosen, what is their status? Soulless trash? Useful idiots?"

It's a burden, not a privilige.

"If the Gentiles are not God's chosen, what is their status? Soulless trash? Useful idiots?"

That is inflammatory, accusatory, misguided, mean, and plain wrong. Do you really think that's how Jews see others?


125 posted on 01/15/2006 7:22:50 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Ciexyz
"hen the pastor mentioned the "suffering of the Palestinians",

Does your pastor have sympathy for other liberal causes? I would guess (without knowing) that he does. If your other church members have the pastor's beliefs, I would find a different church quickly.
If your church body feels as you do, your pastor needs to find a different, more liberal church.
It seems that many mainline Protestant churches have chosen the liberal route. The route where the Ten Commandments have been renamed "the Ten Suggestions"
126 posted on 01/15/2006 7:23:08 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: cgk
closed captioning for the morally impaired

Ha! Go, Jews!!!

127 posted on 01/15/2006 7:25:09 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Baraonda

"Ony Jews are humans. Gentiles are animals." - Talmud, Soncino Edition, 1935 - Baba Mezla 114a-114b

Deliberate mistranslation. Please don't go repeating this stuff, you'll only make yourself look like a dumb as a box of rocks stormfront type.

Responses from http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/qts.html

RESPONSE (1) This represents a lack of knowledge of Hebrew at a most fundamental level. Here, the anti-Semites claim that Adam means human but it really means man. "Yetsoor" is the Hebrew word for human. Jews are referred to by the singular form of man, Adam, whilst non-Jews are referred to by the plural form of man, or anasheem. Both forms of the word mean human, but one is single, the other is plural. The reason that Jews are referred to in the singular is that if one Jew does something bad, or is alleged to have, all Jews are blamed for it. So, for the wrongdoing or alleged wrongdoing of one, all suffer. In the case of non-Jews, only individuals suffer, not all of the non-Jews. So that is why Jews are referred to as a single person and non-Jews are referred to in the plural. David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.net.au)

RESPONSE (2) (Also, see other responses elswhere.) Apparently a deliberate mistranslation. The passage deals with the technical rules of corpse-impurity which, according to the author of this text, apply to Jews and not to gentiles. In this connection Ezekiel 34:31 is cited: "And ye My sheep [referring to Israel], the sheep of My pasture, are _men [Hebrew: "adam"]_, and I am your God, saith the Lord God." From a careful midrashic reading of this Biblical verse, Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai deduced "Only "ye" [i.e., Israel, not other nations] are designated "adam," in the sense that only Jewish corpses and graves generate impurity according to Numbers 19:14: "This is the law: when a _man ['adam']_ dieth in a tent, every one that cometh into the tent...shall be unclean seven days..." The passage is legal and exegetical, not theological. If anything, it seems to put Jews on a lower footing than non-Jews. Typically, the words "but beasts" were added on by whoever put this list together. They do not appear in the original. Correspondent of catamont@concentric.net (Sara Salzman) catamont-2305980759150001@ts003d13.den-co.concentric.net


128 posted on 01/15/2006 7:28:39 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Baraonda; SJackson; Salem; Convert from ECUSA
"Ony Jews are humans. Gentiles are animals." - Talmud, Soncino Edition, 1935 - Baba Mezla 114a-114b

CLAIM "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

RESPONSE (1)
This represents a lack of knowledge of Hebrew at a most fundamental level. Here, the anti-Semites claim that Adam means human but it really means man. "Yetsoor" is the Hebrew word for human. Jews are referred to by the singular form of man, Adam, whilst non-Jews are referred to by the plural form of man, or anasheem. Both forms of the word mean human, but one is single, the other is plural. The reason that Jews are referred to in the singular is that if one Jew does something bad, or is alleged to have, all Jews are blamed for it. So, for the wrongdoing or alleged wrongdoing of one, all suffer. In the case of non-Jews, only individuals suffer, not all of the non-Jews. So that is why Jews are referred to as a single person and non-Jews are referred to in the plural.

RESPONSE (2)
(Also, see other responses elswhere.)
Apparently a deliberate mistranslation. The passage deals with the technical rules of corpse-impurity which, according to the author of this text, apply to Jews and not to gentiles. In this connection Ezekiel 34:31 is cited: "And ye My sheep [referring to Israel], the sheep of My pasture, are _men [Hebrew: "adam"]_, and I am your God, saith the Lord God." From a careful midrashic reading of this Biblical verse, Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai deduced "Only "ye" [i.e., Israel, not other nations] are designated "adam," in the sense that only Jewish corpses and graves generate impurity according to Numbers 19:14: "This is the law: when a _man ['adam']_ dieth in a tent, every one that cometh into the tent...shall be unclean seven days..." The passage is legal and exegetical, not theological. If anything, it seems to put Jews on a lower footing than non-Jews. Typically, the words "but beasts" were added on by whoever put this list together. They do not appear in the original.

129 posted on 01/15/2006 7:28:44 AM PST by Alouette (The Anti-Borg - You Will NOT be Assimilated!)
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To: adam_az

GMTA! :)


130 posted on 01/15/2006 7:30:10 AM PST by Alouette (The Anti-Borg - You Will NOT be Assimilated!)
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To: cgk

Very nice.


131 posted on 01/15/2006 7:47:45 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: cgk

Very nice.


132 posted on 01/15/2006 7:47:45 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: cgk
God chose the Israelites. Judah was one of the tribes.

133 posted on 01/15/2006 7:51:36 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: cgk

Great article and from the LA Times!


134 posted on 01/15/2006 7:54:05 AM PST by demkicker
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To: cgk

Excellent commentary! Thanks for posting this. Methinks therein lies much truth.


135 posted on 01/15/2006 8:29:36 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo (+++ DEATH TO ISLAM +++ DEATH TO CHILD AND ANIMAL ABUSERS +++)
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To: cgk
God chose the Jews because He knew they would advance Ethical Monotheism.
136 posted on 01/15/2006 9:50:05 AM PST by onedoug
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To: GOPPachyderm

Click on links in post 84.


137 posted on 01/15/2006 11:41:11 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

I clicked on the links and googled - see no reference to palestians with respect to the ollywood Presbyterian Church. Disagreement appears to be style of service and $800,000+ church deficit - what am I missing?


138 posted on 01/15/2006 12:41:19 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: GOPPachyderm
what am I missing?

Readings from the Koran and prayers to Allah by the Prebytery officials don't give you a hint?

139 posted on 01/15/2006 3:04:53 PM PST by PAR35
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140 posted on 01/15/2006 7:37:45 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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