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Born or Bred?: Science Does Not Support the Claim That Homosexuality Is Genetic
Concerned Women for America ^ | 12/21/05 | Robert H. Knight

Posted on 01/14/2006 4:14:10 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: TheWormster; MillerCreek
You are playing games.

MillerCreek said "How about this: PROVE TO US that there is not a greater occurence of the virus that causes AIDS among male homosexuals, in comparison with that rate of frequency among heterosexuals."

You denied making the claim. Yet in post 270 you said:

Worldwide, the major source of HIV infection is heterosexual sex.
There's your link.
381 posted on 01/19/2006 2:41:25 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Thank you, scripter.


382 posted on 01/19/2006 3:06:43 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: TheWormster

A lot of people "care about" homosexuals and the impact homosexuality behaviors have upon society, even their own neighborhoods.

To write that "who care what (a homosexual) does with his member" is nonsense, since many people do care and it's obvious from just reading today that the issue poses concern to many human beings, worldwide.

Another thing and that is calling someone "a liar" as you have me indicates a great deal of negative EMOTION about someone's statement/s. Why not simply clarify and move on? Your resort and so soon to a total stranger (I think, since I have no idea who you are nor have I ever viewed your comments anywhere else on FR, nor commented to or about them) by applying pejoratives indicates you are responding to some unidentified element here with a greater deal of negative emotion than is appropriate to public, impersonal discussion.

Not once, but repeatedly, you've applied forceful language to attempt to denigrate much of what I've written here, labelling statements as "lies" when they are anything but. You also have no process by which you could possibly establish any moral condition to my comments with any specificity so why the default to "lying" when, in fact, the usual response would be to attempt to clarify some misunderstanding, to provide greater information or ignore.

You, instead, attempt to assign negative characteristics to mere statements here that, actually, are supported by academics, despite the fact that you may not and are not aware of that. In which case, usually, people ask and if denied, move on.

I consider your ongoing "you're a liar" to be not only odd, but to be deceitful in the sense that it reflects your need to denigrate me rather than establish truth, accuracy.

However, it's been established that you've misrepresented and alluded to other rather outrageous distortions and then blamed others when asked to substantiate or explain further.

In which case, there's no discussion here. I and a few others have asked quite specific questions as to some of what you've written and what you do rather than respond to that is paste the comments of others over again and bury your ongoing pejoratives among those.

I've seen your behavior before on the internet and it has always indicated someone who is not concerned with the information being discussed by others but indicates, instead, a need to create disharmony, disorder, confuse and avoid.

Thus, I again write, you are trolling.


383 posted on 01/19/2006 3:17:44 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: MillerCreek

A very long work day prevents me pitching in anymore than I have. If you were wondering, you're looking very credible in this discussion.


384 posted on 01/19/2006 3:26:35 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Why, thanks, scripter. I had more time than usual today to actually confront a certain degree of problems, ha.

Thank you, again, for your comments. Are appreciated.


385 posted on 01/19/2006 4:54:08 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: RobbyS
Then we should leave prostitutes alone.

Agreed

386 posted on 01/19/2006 5:24:54 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: DBeers

I agree. This thread was posted in news, but it seems that the "heated discussion" with some pro-homosexual FReepers forced it to be moved to "Smoky Backroom." So, I don't know why Jim Robinson's statement about opposing "all forms" of liberalism is being ignored.


387 posted on 01/19/2006 5:51:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: JTN

Except that if we do, they become a public nuisance. Make them work in bordellos.


388 posted on 01/19/2006 9:59:21 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
Except that if we do, they become a public nuisance. Make them work in bordellos.

I don't have a problem with restricting the practice to red light districts.

389 posted on 01/19/2006 10:22:02 PM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: JTN

It works in Holland, but in America it might be as hard as getting motocycle riders to wear helmuts.


390 posted on 01/19/2006 10:35:00 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: DBeers

Bump to your excellent observations.

(FR seems to be working now, and I'm playing catchup.)


391 posted on 01/20/2006 12:53:34 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: MillerCreek

I stand in awe. Great elucidation of the wormtongue's methods.


392 posted on 01/20/2006 12:58:10 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
That may well be true, but since the "causes" are variable and multiple, one can only hope to find out what aspects of the 'causes' affected one person, rather than an overall singular cause which has affected all homosexuals.

I understand there are over 400 different strains of viruses, which cause the common cold. For a moment, let's assume that to be true. This would mean that to find a 'cure' for the common cold, one would need to find a cure which would be successful against 400 viruses. That is a virtual impossibility.

I see homosexuality as being analogous to that.

393 posted on 01/21/2006 11:35:50 AM PST by Michael.SF. ('Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada' - Ted Nugent.)
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To: Michael.SF.; scripter

I don't have my normal links handy. Find Scripter (I think he's on this thread up a ways), click his name, and read the links he's got about former homosexuals. Read their stories, and read what those who have treated thousands of homosexuals have found.

There aren't 4000 causes of homosexuality. It's becoming more and more clear what the causes are, and those who want out of the "gay" life have a good chance, if they hear the truth. If the lie is told that "you were born that way and can't change", then they don't seek the help that is available.


394 posted on 01/21/2006 11:56:11 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
There aren't 4000 causes of homosexuality

If you want to discuss this issue with me please read my comments more carefully. I said no such thing.

395 posted on 01/21/2006 12:00:35 PM PST by Michael.SF. ('Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada' - Ted Nugent.)
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To: wagglebee

Bottom line is, if we could prove homosexuality was genetic would that make gay marriage more acceptable? I don't think Gay marriage should be legalized. I don't care why gays are gay.


396 posted on 01/21/2006 12:03:38 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Michael.SF.

Sorry, 400 causes. I added an extra zero.

Just click on Scripter's name up this thread and look at his links. I just don't have time to get them for you. He's got zillions of articles, arranged by topic, and you can read for hours about the causes of homosexuality. They may be unknown to you, but they are not unknown to others.


397 posted on 01/21/2006 3:45:57 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Antoninus
Like most people, I didn't care what butt-sex crowd did--until they started trying to get their agenda into schools, into the law, into politics, into the culture, into my family.

I like you, did not really care what the butt-sex crowd did.., Until they started trying to get their agenda into the schools, the law, politics, and our culture.

I also extend this judgment to a few other ideology's. They seem to come as a package generally.

Wolf
398 posted on 01/21/2006 4:34:54 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Michael.SF.
Whatever the causes of this behavior (or any other), ultimately it becomes a conscious choice of what one shall do and the consequences thereof..

Conscious choice, This is what makes man what he is, whether 99% evil, pure light, or somewhere in between.

Wolf
399 posted on 01/21/2006 4:45:05 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: little jeremiah

LOL.You missed my point.


400 posted on 01/21/2006 4:57:24 PM PST by Michael.SF. ('Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada' - Ted Nugent.)
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