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in a gun fight, you don't have time for your opponent to bleed to death. He can easily kill you in the time it takes him to bleed out.
You either need a head shot, an upper spine shot, a heart shot or what is more likely, a massive trauma body shot. Skin bleeds don't do you any good. Neither does another hole for it to leak out of. if the vessel is cut, shatters, etc. it doesn't matter if he bleeds internally or externally, as long as that blood is no longer flowing to his heart, lungs or brain.
A through and through shot to the abdomen may kill, but the bad guy can keep coming for at least 20 seconds.
I have seen PAVN take five 5.56 FMJ rounds in RVN. They went right through him and he kept coming. The subsequent M-79 round to the sternum ruined his whole evening.

Massive internal trauma is the secret to an immediate stop. That takes a great bullet delivered to a vital spot at reasonable velocity.

Absolutely shot placement is key, I was commenting on you stating that a "Bullet that goes in and out again does far less damage, especially instant, incapacitating damage, than does a round that enters body cavity and remains".

Any of the above damage is possible with a bullet that also exits the body. All things being equal, two holes will drop blood pressure faster and incapacitate the bad guy faster than one hole. If it takes out the brain, spine, heart or lungs on it's way through, that's even better.

>Any of the above damage is possible with a bullet that also exits the body. All things being equal, two holes will drop blood pressure faster and incapacitate the bad guy faster than one hole. If it takes out the brain, spine, heart or lungs on it's way through, that's even better.

A common, and dangerous, misconception.

The loss of blood pressure resulting in death is neither fast enough by itself to prevent the perp getting off a second shot, nor is it influenced to any great degree by the number of holes in the body.

Thank for a moment. A perp who loses a limb is experiencing blood loss at a far greater rate than will ever occur from two holes in the body. But wounded men in full bleed out from missing limbs can easily continue to fight for 20 to 30 seconds.

In addition, if you are depending on bleed out to (eventually) kill your opponent, don't worry if the blood leaves the body. Many abdominal wounds are fatal but result in little or no blood outside the body. The bullet enters the abdomen, mushrooms, converts all its kinetic energy to damage to the internal organs and then remains inside the body.

There is massive bleeding into the abdominal cavity from the damage. All the vessels supplying the stomach, intestines, liver, kidneys, etc are ruptured (notice ruptured, not cut) sometimes even the heart itself is ruptured, by the massive physical disruption and dislocation caused by the trauma of the bullet.

Someone shot in this way suffers an immediate and fatal loss of blood pressure, as well as a trauma to the nervous system much like the effects a huge electric shock.

It's the shock trauma that incapacitates them and prevents a second shot, while the massive INTERNAL bleed kills them by depriving blood to the brain, lungs and heart in a few moments.

But with all this, it's common to find very little blood outside the body, especially of they land "wound up."

Assuming the same number of bullets involved, it's the internal damage, not the number of holes in the body that do the damage. Any exit wound is a sign of wasted energy that could have been used to cause more internal trauma.