Posted on 01/13/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by FairOpinion
A recent poll shows the born-again "moderate" Republican governor has gained back some popularity, especially in the Bay Area, and is now in a dead heat with Democratic competitors.
"Our survey demonstrates that Schwarzenegger's retreat from the more conservative rhetoric and agenda he brandished during the latter part of 2005 has paid off among middle-of-the road voters," said Melinda Jackson, director of the Survey and Policy Research Institute at San Jose State University.
The governor's job performance rating among voters in a Democrat-leaning state has climbed from 36 percent positive and 53 percent negative in September, to 40 percent positive and 51 percent negative this month.
(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...
I think maybe the Schwartzenegger Swoon is just about spent! Now would be the perfect time for a class candidate to strike!!!
"My guess is he will keep moving all over the spectrum politically to keep them from triangulating on him."
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I certainly hope so. The Dems are attacking him and try to paint him as a "right winger", so independents don't vote for him, some so-called conservatives are attacking him, because he is not conservative enough.
He has to do masterful zigging and zagging to keep from either side triangulating on him, as you said.
A win by any of the Dems would be a total disaster for CA. And I am very suspicious of Al Gore's sudden move to CA.
Exactly.
And I am very suspicious of Al Gore's sudden move to CA.
There was also a rumor concerning Bill Clinton and a move to Microsoft/Washington State.
After Presidential election 2004, Howard Dean blurted out the Dems' intentions to lock in the "west", about 7 or 9 states, he said. (My first thought? The electricity grids. 7 or 9 states. They used to regularly be "affected" on big election days in CA. Not necessarily a linked thing; just what my gut proffered up. ;>)
And there have been articles discussing that Al Gore, in fact, can RUN for office given the "Candidate Requirements" in CA. In sum: Al Gore MUST be "king"! lol. Do you think he might be subliminally saying to all those nutcakes saying the election was "stolen from Al Gore": Prove that you love me.
ick.
Got anyone in mind? As soon as someone pops up, I'm sure y'all will begin to strike him.
If the ilk would not have responded by mutually satisfactying each other the thread may have faded. This has been a telling thread with the ilk exposing themselves like a naked emperor.
The press is in the pocket of the enemy, as are the ilk.
"This has been a telling thread with the ilk exposing themselves like a naked emperor."
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So true. They are a bunch of "faux-conservative" shilling for the Democrats, while proclaiming loudly how conservative they are. And nothing satisfly them,except Dem elected candidates.
When someone, such as truth_seeker, made very sensible suggestions of how to strengthen the Republican Party in CA over time to have more success, they rejected the idea and piled on, showing, once again, that their aim is NOT to elected conservatives, but Democrats. They are just doing it by attacking everyone -- except Dems -- as "not being conservative enough".
Here is one example where Amerigomag admits he prefers "conservative Dems" to Republicans, and please see the rest of the exchange:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1561694/posts?page=85#85
To: FairOpinion
They'll vote for... whoever the Dem candidate?
If the CADEM should offer a conservative Democrat next November they'd run over the Wilsonegger gang .... with the support of conservatives from both parties.
Its not the party registration that matters, it's the candidate's principles. To this Republican a conservative Democrat is preferable to a liberal Republican.
Party registration is not the issue. Political philosophy trumps party registration every time and usually makes for partisan success.
85 posted on 01/20/2006 7:27:26 PM PST by Amerigomag
We will overcome! All the CAGOP policies are ours.
Let me repeat, since you still don't get it:
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/JTF_VoterProfilesJTF.pdf
The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.
Democratic voters (34%) are as likely as Republican voters (32%) to say that their party loyalty is “not very strong.” However, the fact that independents are more likely to lean toward Democrats than Republicans (42% to 28%) tends to work to the disadvantage of the GOP in statewide elections.
Seems a curious logic. Usually a state party organization pays some attention to its traditions and philosophical principles.
I guess that's why the CAGOP is in the hole. They just keep digging. Must have been a stunner for those toiling with their spades yesterday when Wilsonegger advised that he supported and represented Democrats.
Please list the names of Republicans in state wide elected positions in CA, with the exception of Arnold.
Bruce McPherson
AND....???
Not to mention the ratio in the CA Legislature of Dem vs. R.
Bill Leonard and Claude Parrish.
And their postitions are?
Is the Lt. Governor a Republican?
Are key state offices filled by Republicans?
Who was the Governor prior to Arnold?
After maligning Wilson as "RINO", we got Gray Davis, I am sure our faux-conservatives considered that an improvement, just like now, I am sure you will be happier with Al Gore, after Arnold.
The Lincoln Club must have choked on their martinis the other day:
http://www.flashreport.org/blog.php?
Pollster Steve Kinney - I'm not confident that the Governor will seek re-election.
by Mike Spence - Los Angeles County
1-20-2006 9:50 am
This morning meeting of the San Gabriel Valley Lincoln Club featured pollster Steve Kinney. Steve is great pollster and I enjoy and incorporate many of his messages into political. He has worked for liberals and conservatives.
Kinney showed through data that California is not the radical left-wing state that the media makes it out to be. Our poll numbers are virtually the same on issues as they are in the rest of the country. There is an exception in illegal immigration. California is more concerned about illegals than the rest of the country.
Kinney also listed several issues that polled high in intensity among Californians. The Governor managed to mention only one of them in his State of the State speech (sex offenders).
Kinney also pointed out that the Governor didn't do well among GOP voters in the special election. I'm sure more debt and fees should do the trick.
In response to a question, Kinney explained that he hasn't given up hope on the Governor and hoped the "new blood" of Aguiar, Mendelsohn and Schmidt would help. He also added that he wasn't "confident that the Governor was going to seek re-election." Interesting indeed.
Hey, Fair Opinion. How many Democrat governors were there in the whole last century?
FOUR! Count 'em!
"Hey, Fair Opinion. How many Democrat governors were there in the whole last century?
FOUR! Count 'em! "
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The fallacy with your argument is that California has gotten MUCH much more liberal, even leftist since 20-30-50 years ago. AND the Dems have become much more leftists as a party. As I pointed out in another post, JFK wouldn't fit into today's Dem party, because he was FOR taxcuts, and asked "ask not what the the country can do for you, ask what you can do for the country". Today's Dems are only interested in what the country can do for them.
ALSO you inssist on IGNORING TODAY'S SITUATION of the CURRENT demgraphics, which I posted several times, and all the faux-conservatives are ignoring it, because it sinks their entire argument that they are against a moderate Republican, because they prefer a conservative, when in fact it's obvious to everyone sho takes a look at the numbers that a snowball has better chances in that hot place, than California voters electing a conservative to a statewide office.
Here are the FACTS and NUMBERS for the umpteenth time:
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/JTF_VoterProfilesJTF.pdf
The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.
Democratic voters (34%) are as likely as Republican voters (32%) to say that their party loyalty is “not very strong.” However, the fact that independents are more likely to lean toward Democrats than Republicans (42% to 28%) tends to work to the disadvantage of the GOP in statewide elections.
I didn't make an argument. I asked a question, and gave you the answer.
ALSO you inssist on IGNORING TODAY'S SITUATION of the CURRENT demgraphics, which I posted several times, and all the faux-conservatives are ignoring it...
No. I responded before (at least once) to party registration information that was already well known.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557792/posts?page=916#916If folks aren't buying the conclusion, I don't think spamming it on multiple threads and putting things in SCREAMING text is going to improve the argument any.FairOpinion: The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.
calcowgirl: Yep. I posted those numbers upthread a couple times.
Here are the FACTS and NUMBERS for the umpteenth time:
The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.
Why do you keep spamming the same thing? Besides, party registration is already well known and acknowledged--and responded to. (Actually, the Republican registration is 35%--rounded up from 34.7--but who's counting?) [Source: Secretary of State - Pdf File]
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