Posted on 01/13/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by FairOpinion
A recent poll shows the born-again "moderate" Republican governor has gained back some popularity, especially in the Bay Area, and is now in a dead heat with Democratic competitors.
"Our survey demonstrates that Schwarzenegger's retreat from the more conservative rhetoric and agenda he brandished during the latter part of 2005 has paid off among middle-of-the road voters," said Melinda Jackson, director of the Survey and Policy Research Institute at San Jose State University.
The governor's job performance rating among voters in a Democrat-leaning state has climbed from 36 percent positive and 53 percent negative in September, to 40 percent positive and 51 percent negative this month.
(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...
You never explained how do you expect an ultra conservative get elected, considering the current demographics of CA.
Nor have you ever been able to refute the FACT, that the Republican party nominating conservatives in CA results in the Democrats winning. Or have you forgotten, that Gray Davis was elected and re-elected in CA.
You've never asked before! Can you please provide a description of what you consider to be "ultra conservative"? What issues makes someone "ultra conservative"? (Property rights, Gun Control, Borrowing, Spending, Environmental Regulations, etc.) Also, who in California politics would you put in this "ultra conservative" category? I can't answer the question without knowing what you mean by "ultra conservative".
Can you please provide a description of what you consider to be "ultra conservative"?
==
Bill Simon -- LOST.
McClintock -- his only chance as Lt. Gov is to ride Arnold's coattails, otherwise his chances are ZERO.
Man, are you desperate or what?
Every subsequent post here proves it more and more.
You belittle candidates for the GOP that have lost here as if they are or were completely without support and not only that, but then you deride conservatives and the rest of the republicans with a clue and those who supported them and then you bitch they didn't show up and support the Gub's platform , lock stock and barrel.
What you fail to acknowledge is the shoddy work the CA GOP does supporting anyone expressing conservative views and not moderate ones.
Both were worthy candidates, Simon won a primary against your golden boy , Rairdon, and McClintock had the rug yanked out from under him, by no less than the same party leadership, who opted to not support "unelectable candidates", no matter that both were overwhelmingly supported by conservatives..
But Wait, there's more, Conservatives didn't show up and vote and you wail about the last election and all the inititatives that crashed and burned as a result. Maybe actions that seek to diminish those who are regrettably , your peers, do have consequences, imagine that.
What you overlook is that it is now the same party that is trying to have it both ways and now is likely to get screwed from both ends .. again.
Some pattern , huh?
You epitomize the definition of insanity .. doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
But its still some folks at FR's fault and not folks like you who allow this to continue as you blindly keep jumping off the cliff in the arms of your action hero.
Go figure!
Why don't you go post from Debka and UK newsrags? That seems to be your forte.
You really are allergic to the truth, facts and logic, aren't you?
I pointed out umteen or more times by now, that running candidates that only appeal to conservatives, who cannot get any support from any independents and Dems, is a prescription for loss. Yet you keep wanting to run only candidates, who are sure to lose to the Democrats, i.e. the net result is that Dems keep getting elected.
I am the one who wants to get CA away from the iron grip the Dems have on it.
PS. You really should learn the names of Republican cadidates. It's Riordan, not "Rairdon". And Riordan was a darn good LA Mayor.
Ask any sane person, if they are happier now with Villaraigosa as LA mayor.
You want to do the same thing for CA: get rid of Schwarzenegger, so we can get Bustamante or equivalent. Heck, maybe Villaraigose will run for CA governor, I am sure you'll like him better than Schwarzenegger.
Can you please provide a description of what you consider to be "ultra conservative"? What issues makes someone "ultra conservative"? (Property rights, Gun Control, Borrowing, Spending, Environmental Regulations, etc.)And, as far as your comment that McClintock's "only chance as Lt. Gov is to ride Arnold's coattails, otherwise his chances are ZERO," what would you base that on? He ran a statewide race and lost by only 16,000 votes (without much help from the GOP).
Are you saying that the GOP will derail his campaign again, unless he kisses Arnold's boots?
Will you try to derail his campaign too? (you seem to already be starting!)
Do you really hate conservatives that much, FO?
PS. You really should learn the names of Republican cadidates. It's Riordan, not "Rairdon". And Riordan was a darn good LA Mayor.
Ask any sane person, if they are happier now with Villaraigosa as LA mayor.
You want to do the same thing for CA: get rid of Schwarzenegger, so we can get Bustamante or equivalent. Heck, maybe Villaraigose will run for CA governor, I am sure you'll like him better than Schwarzenegger.
Bingo. That's exactly true; and that positive reality of the matter, and without spin.
See, FairOpinion, some folks in the red states may not understand the situation given the "redness" of their states. What many others in other states might not understand is how criminally corrupt is the "culture" of Pelosi, insert a billion "mainstream media players" -- all in CA. Hence, the standard "real genuine conservative" straw dog argumentation about needing a real "conservative" in CA. Principles are great! But principles alone don't win campaigns.
Winning elections is important. Conservative principles are being carried within the Republican Party. We need to get more of our guys elected.
In the red areas of CA, there'll be "more" "genuine" conservative areas. What we need are the density voter numbers -- currently in the blue zones along the coastline.
Getting the voters. Yep. That's the big bottomline. And some "real genuine conservatives" apparently encouraged "conservative" voters to not even bother to vote. My, my...
And so those conservatives who run in "blue zones" of CA have a slightly different hand to play. And this is when the "usual" start calling everyone "bots" or "rino's".
There's a difference between a conservative "player" and a "sleeper" with his nose in the Republican party. There really is. And I think in the near future, that's going to perhaps become more clearly defined.
So ya need to ping for backup.. Sweet!
I am amused you even attempt to field an argument.
Tom appealed to more than just conservatives, btw, he appealed to folks with common sense, something you and others seem to sacrifice and claim that from a 'Pragmatic View'point, you need support from all sides of the spectrum of political support.
If you have to rely on Q factor to win, and then take it in the shorts fron the LGBT and Green as a result, I find it hard to define that as much of a success, but obviously you don't seem to. That, in itself, is most revealing.
Schwarzenegger is the equivalent. His actions prove it. His R means nothing when the results are a purely Dem agenda.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) smiles with Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa before signing a bill which will speed up construction of a carpool lane on the San Diego 405 freeway at a construction site in Los Angeles January 13, 2006. The bill, SB 1026, allocates 90 million dollars and paves the way for an accelerated construction schedule for the lane to be built up to six years sooner than originally planned. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson
Translation of your post: You are unable to refute the facts, reality and logic presented by Alia and myself in our posts, so your resort to insults.
What did you want Arnold to do, punch out Villaraigosa, just to impress you?
Anyone considering Arnold equivalent to Bustamante is totally detached from reality.
Only because you are so easily insultable! I guess I don't have to worry about making it in before the zot anymore, so now I'm gonna try to be reply #1,000!!!
---
You're so full of crap with your comments in that post, all I can say is if your idea of conservative principles in the Republican party is bending over backwards to actually appoint more gays and greens to state positions than anyone on history and then out borrow to the same degree is a badge of honor to you,. welllll...
You know where I'm going..
You two together certainly are either delusional or just plain lying about being supportive of conservatism to any degree at all.
It amazes me you openly out yourselves like this.
Thanks!
altho I'm not surprised.
You'll both wrap your arms and legs around McCain as well, Im sure.
It must be a Battered Voter syndrome thing or something.
By George!!! I think you've got tit!!!
No, that's your job, much as it is here to punch out conservatives, it seems.
Maybe you should be more careful who you cultivate as "enemies".
The moronity of the arguments made by a few "conservatives" on this thread speak volumes .
With friends like these "posse" people, who needs enemas? (whoops, I mean enemies!)
So you say but the facts say otherwise.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.