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Stupid in America -- Why your kids are probably dumber than Belgians
Reason ^ | January 13, 2006 | John Stossel

Posted on 01/13/2006 3:34:41 AM PST by JTN

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"Stupid in America" airs tonight.
1 posted on 01/13/2006 3:34:44 AM PST by JTN
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To: freepatriot32

Ping


2 posted on 01/13/2006 3:35:03 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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Three myths of American education:

1. Education is the key to our future.
2. To get a good job you need a college education.
3. Teachers are underpaid.

Add those up and you get a public-education monopoly run by unions.


3 posted on 01/13/2006 3:39:13 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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Stupid in America -- Why your kids are probably dumber than Belgians

American parents bear a lot of the blame. Many have bought into the idea that self-esteem is somehow unrelated to self-respect, and have emphasized the former rather than the latter in rearing their kids. That true self-esteem can arise only out of self-respect, and that self-respect can arise only out of hard work and self-discipline, are facts that would appear to have escaped their notice.

So much the worse for us and our posterity...

4 posted on 01/13/2006 3:40:35 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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On the other hand, do we really want to emulate Belgium? I've heard many times about how European students out perform American students in pretty much every subject. Well what good has it done them? Their economies are going down the toilet and they ceased to be meaningful world powers long ago. If trends continue, Europe will be mostly Muslim by mid-century. Europeans may be well educated but they aren't exactly smart.

There are many things that should be done to improve education in the US. But please let's not emulate Europe. They are a dying civilization - better seen as a warning of what not to do than as a positive role model.
5 posted on 01/13/2006 3:43:26 AM PST by sassbox
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3.Teachers are underpaid

Back a couple of years ago when I was in high school the teachers were about to go on strike because they were "underpaid". One teacher who was only about 32 who was against the union told us he made $50,000+, full medical and dental, as much vacation as students, 2 free periods per day, full pension, medical and dental until death, whole and term life insurance, and a paid funeral. 90% of people in the working world only wish they had that kind of package.

6 posted on 01/13/2006 3:44:44 AM PST by LukeL
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"Stupid in America" airs tonight.

It'll be watched by no one and nothing will change. I'm no tinfoil-hatter, but you almost have to assume that our education system is the way it is for a reason. It's pretty much designed to create generation after generation of mindless drones who will do exactly what they're told, exercise no creativity, and will not question authority.

7 posted on 01/13/2006 3:46:57 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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Their economies are going down the toilet and they ceased to be meaningful world powers long ago.

Their economies are in the toilet because their economies are more socialist than ours is. Their education system is better because it's less socialist. The lesson is clear -- socialism stinks.

8 posted on 01/13/2006 3:47:20 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: LukeL

And the time-off package is ridiculous.


9 posted on 01/13/2006 3:49:07 AM PST by gotribe (Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
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This is awful. We have to spend much more money on education. They have the right idea in the new high school they built in my area, with it's indoor olympic size swimming pool, and plasma TV screens in the hallways.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 3:53:15 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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I remember reading somewhere awhile back (though I don't remember where) that teachers actually make as much as or more than most professionals with similar educations when calculated on a per hour basis.


11 posted on 01/13/2006 3:53:17 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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Stupid in America airs every night.





12 posted on 01/13/2006 3:53:43 AM PST by G.Mason (Did the illegal worker in that burger place, spit on it before, or after he pick it up off the floor)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Today's parents were educated in the same system that is the problem. You need to go back 40 years to find something that resembles decent education and even then it was not nearly as rigorous as at was 40 years earlier than that time.


13 posted on 01/13/2006 3:54:05 AM PST by David Isaac
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the NEA and the Dims should rot in hell for what they are doing to our children.

(BTW, my kid are brilliant and the average Belgian couldn't hold a candle to them....in spite of, not because of, their public school education.)
14 posted on 01/13/2006 3:55:01 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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"Stupid in America airs every night."

BINGO!


15 posted on 01/13/2006 3:55:44 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: garbanzo

The term "tin-foil hat" was created by those same people. I do not believe it is possible for education to have regressed as far as it has, while nearly everything else has been PROGRESSING, purely by accident.


16 posted on 01/13/2006 3:57:15 AM PST by David Isaac
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Marked for some commentary after work.
17 posted on 01/13/2006 3:59:21 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud member of the Free Republic Humility Club. We are twice as humble as you are.)
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Three myths of American education

There's only one important myth of American education, which does not exist anywhere else in the world.

That is the myth that all, or virtually all, young adults are capable of tenth-grade level work and beyond.

This is manifestly false and has resulted in the erection and maintenance, at huge cost, of giant holding pens for 15-18 year olds, and the debasement of academic values and evaluation systems for all.

Free universal public education must end at age 14.

18 posted on 01/13/2006 3:59:45 AM PST by Jim Noble (Fiat justitia, ruat coelum)
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They have the right idea in the new high school they built in my area, with it's indoor olympic size swimming pool, and plasma TV screens in the hallways.

Some of the holding pens are really nice.

But they're not schools.

19 posted on 01/13/2006 4:00:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (Fiat justitia, ruat coelum)
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To: David Isaac

Agreed.


20 posted on 01/13/2006 4:01:26 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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