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To: Sangey
We now have army technologies called Unattended Ground Sensors and Ground Surveillance Radar (17Kilo is the job) that would be force multipliers.

The Border Patrol has been using ground sensors since the 1950s and I believe they are testing the ground radars as we speak. The problem is they don’t have enough of the stuff leaving large areas with little or no coverage. Ask an agent what kind of technology they need and they will tell you more sensors and better IR cameras. So what does DHS buy, a 14 million dollar Predator UAV designed for a completely different mission.

I think that the Border Patrol may need to become more like the Coast Guard.

Please no. The Border Patrol already has more authority to enforce federal law than USCC including Title 8 & 18 (immigration) Title 19 (customs) and Title 21 (delegated from DEA). Placing them under the UCMJ would not do them any favors either.

The USBP makes more arrests per agent (also with the fewest civil rights allegations) than any other law enforcement agency in the world. There are just not enough of them.

You are absolutely right however, there is no silver bullet to solving this more agents or even the National Guard alone will not be enough. We need the proper mix of agents, technology and tactual infrastructure (fences etc.) to effect real and sustained border security. Additionally interior enforcement closing the jobs magnet that drives this activity will be a critical element.

52 posted on 01/12/2006 3:42:14 PM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: usurper
So what does DHS buy, a 14 million dollar Predator UAV designed for a completely different mission.

A predator doesn't seem like the right tool for the job. Something smaller and shorter legged (and cheaper) would be better. It would be under the control of local BP agents, not some remote "Surveillance section". Plenty of those sorts available. Some not much larger than a hobby model airplane, but still able to carry IR or Video cameras, with the required downlink.

63 posted on 01/12/2006 4:21:14 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: usurper
to Mr Usurper

You are right about technology. I am old technology. These people need the best both for weapons and surveillance. I do not dislike the unmanned drones, but they are not the first thing they should have given. Drones can be useful, but not as first/only thing. IR technology is good stuff.

When I did say more like USCG I mean that they need more/better weapons. Navy has big boats heavy but like USCG border patrol needs fast and mobile but more firepower.


Buddha Bless the USA
107 posted on 01/14/2006 3:27:02 PM PST by Sangey (Buddha bless the USA)
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