Posted on 01/12/2006 1:41:30 PM PST by VU4G10
That was the first mistake. Whoever he talked to was ignorant, they Social Security Administration has a program in place in all 50 states to verify SS numbers presented by prospective employees. Now, if this friend tried this 2 or more years ago, then the program wasn't in place...
True, but those WW-II Mexicans in the US Military were not anyone I knew, but there were a considerable number of them.
On the Canadian side, you'll note that the Right Wing Wacko conservatives have pulled ahead in their polls. The Pink Cannucks are not long for the PM job to our North.
Boy that pisses me off. Foreign pukes are lobbying our Congress?!
I'll never vote for any SOB member in Congress who listens to foreigners telling him what legislation to support.
And it ain't just Mexico doing it -- and some of the others have "Americans" do it for them.
At least one country requires "Americans" do the lobbying for it and it requires the "Americans" to pay all the costs.
One guess which country.
Bill Gertz in an intreview on KSFO said that Red China requires their useful idiots (U.S. corporations) to keep staffs of lobbyists in Washington to handle the Chi-coms' interest before Congress.
The Gov. of Arizona is a Clinton crony. Surely he knows that the Governor controls the state National Guard.
Hint: Lips moving = lie. This is part of a continuing Democrat strategy against the WOT.
Okay, I got it.
Over two hundred years America has remained a sovereign nation - no country would dare to act toward us as Mexico has. But now, thanks to our president, America is becoming an occupied nation that is being taken over by a hostile people, and nobody cares.
There is a point of no return, and we have come to it. No longer do our politicians care about the freedom of this country or the security of its citizens. They are borrowing trillions of dollars to take care of every social program on the planet; they are championing outsourcing all well paying middle class jobs, and they stand by doing nothing while the building industry has fired all its American workers and hired illegals at half the cost and no benefits.
Just once I'd like to see the people who post "A day in the life of President Bush" tell the truth about how many illegals Bush has asked to come to come into the the country illegally today.
Yes, it's that very statement and others like it that drives most of America up the wall...that Fox and others in Mexico instruct repeatedly their own in such nonsense, refuse to learn or acknowledge understanding that the United States even has a border, isn't mere land territory of Mexico there to plunder, use at will, "heroically" exploit.
The statement and others like it reinforces the perception that criminality in Mexico is considered "good character" and that to be law abiding (illegal immigration is a felony under the laws of the U.S.) is to be NOT "heroic."
As an aspect to these issues...how do people here feel about the position by the United States Chamber of Commerce? They are lobbying Congress for AMNESTY for illegal aliens ("migrant workers" they say similarly to Fox) and a Guest Worker program because they claim both are necessary to compensate for "labor shortage" in the U.S.
It won't work, because it doesn't really address the causes of the problem. There are essentially two things driving it:
1. Americans are paying Mexicans to cross the border.
2. It serves the purposes of Mexican politicians to keep the flow of immigrants going.
a. It brings hard US currency into Mexico
b. It provides an outlet for the more "restless" Mexicans to leave -- we're talking here more about honest workers, though there's a criminal element, too.
No amount of wall-building will address those problems.
I agree (that it is self defeating to try to pursue and promote one idea over another)...the successful solution is a multi-solution approach, pursuing and developing all the solutions simultaneously: a border wall, military, punishment for employing illegal aliens, removing taxpayer funded supports/"rewards" for illegal aliens in the U.S., correcting the "anchor baby" misapplication of the 14th Amendment, deportations of illegal aliens, a huge invoice to Mexico for social services in the U.S. used already by Mexican citizens in the U.S. illegally...all of it.
And no Guest Worker programs, none, whatsoever, until AFTER these conditions are resolved. THEN assess whether or not the U.S. has to import unskilled labor and not employ Americans first.
"Fences on urban stretches of the border in California and Texas have pushed migrants to the Arizona desert"
IT WORKS! BUILD IT NOW!""
It has occurred to me that if the invaders won't respect our borders and the existing fences, when they get to my neighborhood, they won't respect my fences, either!!!!
How does "the U.S." assess this? Doesn't the current situation suggest that "the U.S." has already done so?
It appears that what you're really suggesting is the "the U.S. Government" needs to assess it, and that "the U.S. Government" will decide on whether or not to import labor.
There are reasonable arguments for and against this; my point is simply that your suggestion is basically a call for government involvement in the labor market.
What's wrong with the government deciding how many foreign workers we have?
There's not necessarily anything wrong with it. But we need to be clear that that is exactly what's being suggested; just as we need to be clear that "American business" (if you'll excuse my broad brush) seems already to have decided that it wants to hire illegal aliens, despite the fact that it's illegal to do so.
This points out a more general, and more serious problem on our side of the border.
I'm not sure when he had the issue with Social Security; but I am glad they will now verify numbers for employers.
The honest ones won't, the greedy ones will. After they get tired of paying lawyers, and fines to keep out of jail, they will stop.
But if we allow the dishonest employers to do illegal things, we will soon have nothing but dishonest business in the country. In other words, we will be just like Mexico.
Though I agree that President Bush has not made me happy with his border policies; he by no means is the only one. Every President that I know of starting with Carter has made the border issues worse or ignored them completely. I do not blame Bush for all the problems, but I wish he would work to solve them. We have not had a President in recent history who understood or cared about the border issues.
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