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To: Fred Nerks
One more problem for the Big Bang: Recently-discovered galaxy clusters reveal too much complex structure to be as “young” as Big Bang speculations would require.

So what would such a "complex structure" require?

... Gravitational forces could not have generated such a cluster of galaxies in such an astronomically short time.

Fascinating. And how astronomically long of a time would be required?

Also fascinating is the parts of the press release they "forgot" to quote (or at least link to):

The VLT data measured the redshift of this cluster as 1.4, indicating a distance of 9,000 million light-years, 500 million light years farther out than the previous record holding cluster.

This means that the present cluster must have formed when the Universe was less than one third of its present age. The Universe is now believed to be 13,700 million years old.

"We are quite surprised to see that a fully-fledged structure like this could exist at such an early epoch," says Christopher Mullis. "We see an entire network of stars and galaxies in place, just a few thousand million years after the Big Bang".

"We seem to have underestimated how quickly the early Universe matured into its present-day state," adds Piero Rosati of ESO, another member of the team. "The Universe did grow up fast!"

So the previous record-holder was 8,500Mya, and this one is measured at 9,000Mya. Roughly a six percent increase.

Stop the lab experiments!
Empirical science is a fraud!

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25 posted on 01/11/2006 10:09:44 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: dread78645

The First Crisis in Cosmology Conference
By Tim Ventura | Published 08/30/2005 | Research | Rating:

Tim Ventura
The Linus Torvalds of Antigravity ... Since the birth of American Antigravity in 2002, Tim has been featured on a multitude of television networks, such as Nippon TV and the BBC, as well as extensively covered in print by sources as diverse as Wired Magazine and Jane's Defense Weekly.

View all articles by Tim Ventura The Big Bang was wrong
by Hilton Radcliffe [mailto:ratcliffe@iafrica.com]

Introduction: In May 2004, a group of about 30 concerned scientists published an open letter to the global scientific community in New Scientist in which they protested the stranglehold of Big Bang theory on cosmological research and funding. The letter was placed on the Internet and rapidly attracted wide attention. It currently has about 300 signatories representing scientists and researchers of disparate backgrounds, and has led to a loose association now known as the Alternative Cosmology Group. This writer was one of the early signatories to the letter, and holding the view that the Big Bang explanation of the Universe is scientifically untenable, patently illogical, and without any solid observational support whatsoever, became involved in the organisation of an international forum where we could share ideas and plan our way forward. That idea became a reality with the staging of the First Crisis in Cosmology Conference (CCC-1) in the lovely, medieval walled village of Moncao, far northern Portugal, over 3 days in June of this year.

Big Bang theory depends critically on three first principles: that the Universe is holistically and systematically expanding as per the Friedmann model; that General Relativity correctly describes gravitation; and that Milne’s Cosmological Principle, which declares that the Universe at some arbitrary “large scale” is isotropic and homogeneous, is true. The falsification of any one of these principles would lead to the catastrophic failure of the theory. We saw at the conference that all three can be successfully challenged on the basis of empirical science...

http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/209/1/The-First-Crisis-in-Cosmology-Conference

NO ONE HAS THE LAST WORD IN SCIENCE.


28 posted on 01/11/2006 10:29:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download - link on My Page)
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