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To: spunkets
Also, at the HS classroom level, such discussions are inappropriate for anything other than brief chit chat, because the subject is above their heads.

Spoken like a true elitist.

I still want to know why state courts can tell local schools what they may teach and how they may teach it. And I don't personally care much for ID, per se, or what I've learned about it. I agree it probably isn't science, but neither do I believe in 'Science Uber Alles'.
There is room for asking about the purpose of life, even in the high school classroom, is there not? Why do you assume such thoughts are 'above their heads'? I was asking precisely these questions when I was in high school, and I am not eager to see any orthodoxy presented in an atmosphere that does not allow difficult questions.
Do you wish to hermetically seal off science from other disciplines and competing world views? It seems that you do.

34 posted on 01/12/2006 1:04:12 AM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A "democratic socialist" is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
"why state courts can tell local schools what they may teach and how they may teach it."

It was a federal court, because at issue was the 1st Amendment's establishment clause. The trial uncovered the school board's motivation was religious. In particular, Christianity. They also uncovered the IDers motivations, it was the same. They, along with the school board had claimed the motivation was scientific. The that the matter was scientific was debunked as federal courts do all the time in such cases as patent law, environmental law, and other regulatory matters. It was uncovered during the trial that Behe had no peer review as he originally claimed, they provided no science, and nothing substantial as an alternative to evolution.

"There is room for asking about the purpose of life, even in the high school classroom, is there not?"

Not in science class, because science can't address the matter.

"Why do you assume such thoughts are 'above their heads'? "

Those thoughts aren't above their heads. The various ideas that are out their can be taught and discussed in social studies, where Freedom is taught as the American way and the free exercise clause is discussed in govm't class. My reference to "above their heads" was to the ability to fish through and effectively recognize ID as a con. It takes more than any HS education to do that effectively, just as it would to recognize errors in the materials taught in biology.

" Do you wish to hermetically seal off science from other disciplines and competing world views?"

Competing world views? Science doesn't address world view. That's social studies, English class and govm't class. I've never seen a philosophy class. Science class should be just that, science not science plus junk. The same goes for math. In those classes truth and rational thought are essential. Truth is singular and unique. Does competing world view fit into math class also?

43 posted on 01/12/2006 7:00:09 AM PST by spunkets
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