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'KILLER': I HAD COP OUTGUNNED
NY Post ^ | Jan. 11, 2006 | DENISE BUFFA

Posted on 01/11/2006 3:52:54 AM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Drawsing

The "Myth Busters" themselves disproved this, as well.
They shot everything, including a pig carcass, and could not get any of the targets to do more than jerk a little.


41 posted on 01/11/2006 6:02:53 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: MarkL

"And technically, the writer did get the bullet size thing correct too... A jacketed 9mm is .355", while a jacketed .357 is .357"."

Technically it is correct, however the impression they are trying to give is that there is a significant difference in bullet diameter between a 9mm and a .357. No one with any knowledge of firearms believes that. They should also know that a bullet impact can't physically move a person. If a person jumps when shot it is because a nerve center is hit or a reflexive response to being hit.


42 posted on 01/11/2006 6:16:10 AM PST by BadAndy (The DemocRATs are the enemy's most effective weapon.)
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To: eastforker
Why would anyone even consider carrying a .25?

To balance out your Zippo in the other pocket.

43 posted on 01/11/2006 6:19:07 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: BadAndy

Many Pistol manufacturers make semi autos in .357 Sig. The Auto version of the .357 Magnum. It is a very fine caliber. With extreme shock ammo, high velocity hollow points a good shot can put down a perp with a single shot. The problem is with many high velocity rounds is ricochets. Innocent bystanders are in danger. Bad Guys don't care about Collateral Damage.

Decent Men do. The use of a .25 auto is a waste. Especially with compact .357 Sigs available. But don't know what the regulations are in NY for off duty Peace Officers.


44 posted on 01/11/2006 6:21:10 AM PST by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: SJSAMPLE

I would imagine that a buckshot blast from a 12 gauge within 20 feet would send a man back a few feet.


45 posted on 01/11/2006 6:22:42 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: eastforker

"Why would anyone even consider carrying a .25?"

I suppose if you were hunting mice, it'd be an OK choice.


46 posted on 01/11/2006 6:26:58 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Pharmboy
"than a 9mm because the bullets are bigger"

Yep, the 9mm is 0.355 and the 357 is 0.357. That 0.002 makes all the difference in the world...~sarc off.

The difference is what type of load you use. Even Dirty Harry admitted that he only used 44 specials in his Model 29. If we don't know what the firearm was loaded with, then we don't know the ballistics.

47 posted on 01/11/2006 6:27:44 AM PST by Deguello
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To: Pharmboy

Nope.

If it doesn't send the shooter (who has 100% of the energy at the time the weapon is fired), then it won't do that to the victim, who gets the projectiles that have lost a little (not much) energy during travel.


48 posted on 01/11/2006 6:29:42 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: sgtbono2002
Let him continue bragging when they shove the needle in his arm.

New York state ain't got the balls to execute him.

49 posted on 01/11/2006 6:33:16 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Yep--I see your point (physics was never my strong point). I have never been knocked down firing my 12 gauge...


50 posted on 01/11/2006 6:33:52 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

Less so, I think than a dear slug. Neither would send someone through the air. When the lights go out from a gun shot the body collapses to the ground.


51 posted on 01/11/2006 6:33:57 AM PST by em2vn
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To: Pharmboy
Is a police-issue vest capable of stopping the .357?

It is my understanding that the bullet hit the Police Officer under the arm, in an area not protected by the vest.

But "flew ten feet"? Puhleez. Let us stop and review the physics. A bullet would have to be travelling about a million FPS to have enough momentum to throw a human adult ten feet.

52 posted on 01/11/2006 6:34:10 AM PST by gridlock
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To: Pharmboy

The cop was off duty and at home.


53 posted on 01/11/2006 6:35:53 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: gridlock

He was off duty and had no vest on. The NYPD officer killed the week before had a vest on and was shot under the arm.


54 posted on 01/11/2006 6:35:58 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Drawsing
One myth busted was the Hollywood standard of showing people flying through the air backwards after being hit with a bullet.

As it happens, we were shooting a few bowling pins last night at our weekly Tuesday night pistol match. I was relating this to a friend, who was incredulous that with 9mm, 38sp, .44sp, and even mighty .45's were only able to knock the pins 5 or 6 feet.

55 posted on 01/11/2006 6:36:03 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: SJSAMPLE

To some extent but remember when you pull the trigger of that shotgun you brace yourself for it OTOH the shootee(is that a word?) may be knocked off ballance. I have an old single shot that was old 43 years ago when it was given to me and if shot without bracing it would knock you on your but.


56 posted on 01/11/2006 6:37:43 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Pharmboy

Sorry for my confusion.


57 posted on 01/11/2006 6:38:15 AM PST by gridlock
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To: Pharmboy

This article is total crap from the first word.

I'll choose a Model 59 Smith with 16 rounds of P+ over a 357 Six Shooter any day, unless I am hunting dear.


58 posted on 01/11/2006 6:39:43 AM PST by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: eastforker
I have an old single shot that was old 43 years ago when it was given to me and if shot without bracing it would knock you on your but.

8 gauge? That was the first shotgun I ever fired.
59 posted on 01/11/2006 6:42:10 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

Nope, it is a 12. That sucker has a nasty mean kick.


60 posted on 01/11/2006 6:45:34 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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