Posted on 01/10/2006 10:34:03 PM PST by IntheHillsGolden
The democrat party is dying. The Republican party is becoming the loyal liberal party. A new conservative party is needed. Maybe the Constitution party is it. I had an idea for a "sub party" to support candidates in the primary, and then vote for the pub in the gen.
The Tar and Feathers Party perhaps
Let's face the facts together. The Republican Party has gotten great mileage from the abortion issue, but the historical facts are it was a Supreme Court with a majority of Republican appointees that brought about Roe v Wade. The Republicans have had years of opportunity to introduce a Constitutional Amendment in Congress to address this issue, but have not done so. The Republican Party is milking the issue for all they can get while babies die. The Republican Party is the more dangerous of the two parties because they endear themselves to the liberal principles of the Democratic Party in practice while touting conservative causes.
What punitive actions indeed since the majority of elected Republicans will not even try.
Been there and done that, sort of. Voted for Ross Perot, elected Bill(B.J.) Clinton. No Thanks!
You have written a very reasoned, intelligent, and correct response. None of what you have written is incorrect. A return to Christianity in this country is an absolute necessity. However, certain things need to happen in order for this to occur. First and foremost, the terrorists must be "stopped". They probably will never be "defeated". Second, the democrats and their hard-left liberal supporters such as Soros and Progressive Insurance are as much a problem as the terrorists, indeed, they are on the same side, and they are one and the same. They both work for the same results. They need to be stopped also. Defeating the terrorists, and the democrats, obviously requires electing Republicans. Roberts and Alito are the first steps.
I don't even know what this guy has to say, however, I can guess- Recreational Abortion devalues ALL respect for ALL life! Nothing but commom sense!
You're notion has been disproved by history, and the facts.
When abortion was illegal: an estimated 100 thousand 'back alley' abortions per year.
When abortion became legal: over 1.5 million abortions per year.
Roe v Wade increased the number of abortions to phenomenal numbers. (about a 1,500% (percent) increase in the slaughter. But perhaps the worst part of the whole affair of Roe is that the decision crowned the bloodbath of abortion with the American seal of approval. May God have mercy on us.
You are right, so I guess we should just end laws on aborting adults too. Its obvious that laws against Murder are not 100% effective, however I havent seen a big push to repeal them. I speed nearly every time I drive, but that doesnt mean we are going to just do away with speed limits. I fail to understand how it is supposedly OK to kill an unborn child, the most defenseless of all humans, but not an adult, even when the adult is breaking into your house with a gun or carjacking you (in some states). "It was inconvinient for me to have these irritating neighboors your honor, so I aborted them."
This isn't true. When Planned Parenthood was fighting for the cause of legalized abortion they claimed the number of "back-alley" abortions in America was about 100 thousand. They used this number to help gain sympathy for their cause, and to "prove" that 100,000 women per year were being 'harmed' because abortion was illegal. This figure was likely inflated because it was claimed by the likes of Planned Barrenhood. But the very next year, after Roe v Wade allowed abortions, the amount immediately grew to 1.5 million per year. My math stinks, but I think that's a 15 hundred percent increase.
So it's very obvious that the legalization of baby killing affected the mindset of American women by assuring them it's OK, and of course it also made it easy and cheap to procure. Making abortion illegal again won't completely stop it, but it will vastly reduce the number of abortions immediately.
So has apathy and disinterest masking evil. I find it interesting that some are interested in everything about abortion except the perspective of the person being aborted and the fact that no matter who does it or why it is done that the murder of an innocent is cold blooded murder...
I would characterize this type of person with this type of perspective as ghoulish and without any true conscience.
These people mimic feelings logically deduced and echo concerns based upon what they think a feeling person would emote...
Perhaps not helpful as you wish, but realistic.
Those statistics were based on back before aborions were legal and not as accepted by people. I am guessing, that if made illegal now, it won't make that much difference....but we'll probably never know.
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I doubt we can, but obviously it's better than the status quo.
Is there some law that could be passed to keep people from crossing state lines to get an abortion even if it's legal in the other state?
I don't think so.
The only way to completely end it is at the Federal level.
It shouldn't require a constitutional amendment, since the Constitution recognizes our unalienable right to life. Practically, I don't see a national will to do this. Any attempt to criminalize abortion nationally will have to be preceded by a PR campaign equal to the one against tobacco.
39 million people. One really has to wonder what the United States would be like with 39 million additional natural citizens. We allowed 39M natural citizens to be killed and watched as illegals invaded our country.
A morbid consideration of course, but interesting to think about.
It's hard to do, and we've had a number of setbacks, but we ARE making progress.
To end abortion as we know it, it will be a two-step process. We're still on step one.
Step one: End Roe v. Wade. Roe has taken the decision-making ability away from the political process and placed it in the hands of an unaccountable judiciary who claim that it's "a Constitutional Right." Obviously, it is not. We've been at this for over 30 years, but with the recent confirmation of Justice Roberts and the nomination of Sam Alito, we are getting closer and closer to this result. If the President gets to nominate one more justice and nominates someone in the Roberts/Alito mold, then Roe will be overturned. Again, it's taken a long time, but we've made great progress. The withdrawal of the Miers nomination under withering conservative pressure is one of the great victories of our struggle, given the history we've had with Republican presidents nominating judges who then promptly "Go Souter" on us.
Step Two: Engage the political process. Once Roe is overturned, the decision will rest with the state legislatures, as the Constitution requires. We will then have to fight for this cause in every state with abortion laws. In some states, we may succeed in getting abortion almost completely eliminated. In others, it may be tougher. But as technology continues to develop and more information becomes available about the unborn baby inside the womb, the tide will turn even more in our favor.
Sorry about the long-winded explanation, but this is what needs to happen before abortion can end or be severely restricted.
Thanks for such a long non-answer.
Well said. However, the abortionist would counter, "I will sacrifice you for your own sake." Flawed, immoral reasoning, obviously. But that is the argument they spew. Who ever thought that wild speculation on the future track of a human life could be the defense of killing an innocent?
Just today my husband was saying he would not want to be standing in front of God after concluding it was lawful to kill babies just by sitting on the supreme court.My question who were the Justices then?
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