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Ukraine: The oligarchs strike back!
Untimely Thoughts ^ | 1/10/2005 | Peter Lavelle

Posted on 01/10/2006 9:22:35 PM PST by GarySpFc

On the back of mounting discount with the way the authorities solved the gas dispute with Russia’s Gazprom led by President Viktor Yushchenko’s former ally Yulia Tymoshchenko, the Verkhovna Rada voted to fire the Cabinet of Prime Minister Yurii Yekhanurov on Tuesday. This is not a political crisis - it is about who got the short end of the stick in the gas deal.

The motion passed with 250 votes, 24 more than the 226 required. The Yulia Tymoshenko Block, Party of Regions, Communists, Socialists and Lytvyn Block all voted overwhelmingly in favor of the motion. What happens now?

* While Ukraine changed into a parliamentary-presidential republic on January 1, only President Yushchenko has the legal right to form the new government until after the March 26th elections.

* The president’s current government will stay in power until then unless Yushchenko decides to put forward a new candidate as Prime Minister. The possibility of this happening is very small, as the Rada, knowing it is soon to assume power, would most assuredly block any of Yushchenko’s nominees.

* The government will began its winter recess on Monday and will not reconvene until February 7, and even in the best of circumstances the appointment of a new prime minister can take about a month.

* The Rada’s move is a slap in the face for the Yushchenko politically; in fact it will probably not affect the day to day work of the current government.

What is of interest?

* Tymoshenko’s alliance with Viktor Yanukovych and the Party of Regions. Recall that the BYT was initially against the appointment of Yekhanurov, but was careful not to connect itself with Regions when they blocked his nomination in the first vote – though at the time it appeared that Yushchenko’s power base had reached out to Yanukovych.

* BYT appears to have changed course approaching the elections: from parallel with Our Ukraine to head-on collision.

Background noise:

* Dissatisfaction with the gas deal with Russia is a front (if not excuse) to attack Yushchenko. What certainly is behind the dissatisfaction with the deal is probably how some powerful members of Ukraine’s “energy-criminal-oligarchy” have been shut out of the new agreement with Gazprom.

* All of Ukraine’s parties have oligarch masters in the background (even foreground!) and Yushchenko’s “unilateral” recasting of the country’s favorite (illegal) cash cow has raffled a lot of feathers.

What about Russia?

* It is my hope that the Kremlin sits this whole thing out and simply demands a market mechanism to deal with gas supplies to and through the Ukraine. Sticking to this position speaks sense to its ultimate end-user: Western Europe.

* If the Kremlin can be a passive onlooker, just maybe the West will see the real Ukraine: unable to break the back of the oligarchs, satisfied with being the most energy wasteful country in the world (getting energy for free from Russia + making illegal profits), and a country that always asks for help from others, while others are blamed for all its problems.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: gas; lavelle; russia; ukraine
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Yulia Tymoshenko at one time was the energy czar, and in 5 short years she increased her net worth by $11.5 billion by siphoning off Russian gas and selling it to others at market prices. The new contract with Russia has safeguards to stop the siphoning.
1 posted on 01/10/2006 9:22:36 PM PST by GarySpFc
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2 posted on 01/10/2006 9:25:30 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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So for those not following too closely, (ME-lol) the dude that had his face messed up by food poisening by the communists, had a lady in charge of energy that sucked out gas from a Russian pipe that ran through the Ukraine which made the russkies threaten to stop the flow. She was booted out. In simple terms is that what happened? Please help -thanks!


3 posted on 01/10/2006 9:31:53 PM PST by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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On the back of mounting discount

Come on people, learn some English.
4 posted on 01/10/2006 10:08:36 PM PST by billybudd
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she's neck deep in the mob as well.

Russian, Ukraine, Syria, Iran, etc, etc... its all the same. Countries where organized crime runs the show.


5 posted on 01/10/2006 10:18:17 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: GarySpFc

It was a fine thing Yushenko did in getting that badly burned young ukrainian girl to our shriner's hospital in boston. It shows the quality of his character. There is of course an energy solution that makes hydrocarbon supplies moot, wanna hear about it?


6 posted on 01/10/2006 10:28:53 PM PST by timer
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There is of course an energy solution that makes hydrocarbon supplies moot, wanna hear about it?

Nope. Happy just the way I am.

7 posted on 01/11/2006 12:13:27 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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Rush Limbaugh warned us about you mind-numbed robots...you must own LOTS of oil stocks...and millions of cars stuck in traffic jams are a JOY to you....


8 posted on 01/11/2006 2:31:24 AM PST by timer
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So for those not following too closely, (ME-lol) the dude that had his face messed up by food poisening by the communists, had a lady in charge of energy that sucked out gas from a Russian pipe that ran through the Ukraine which made the russkies threaten to stop the flow. She was booted out. In simple terms is that what happened? Please help -thanks!

Firstly, do you know for certain the Russian FSB poisoned Yushchenko? Quite frankly I have my doubts, because they don't make mistakes, and he would be dead by now. I suspect it was either the former regime or the ambitious Yulia Tymoshenko.

Secondly, Yulia Tymoshenko was booted out. However, remember she made her $11.5 billion siphoning off gas, which shows her character. I find it hard to believe, but the New Jersey GOP shows her as a Republican Babe of the Month. Never mind the fact that she wants to re-nationalize all the industry in the Ukraine. The lady keeps coming back time after time even after being booted out twice.
9 posted on 01/11/2006 3:35:08 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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It was a fine thing Yushenko did in getting that badly burned young ukrainian girl to our shriner's hospital in boston. It shows the quality of his character. There is of course an energy solution that makes hydrocarbon supplies moot, wanna hear about it?

Have you ever heard of Al Capone and his acts of charity for the poor?
10 posted on 01/11/2006 3:37:09 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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'; Have you ever heard of Al Capone and his acts of charity for the poor?"

I was mildly surprised anyone fell for that one here, but i guess the pols do things like that because it DOES influence people.


11 posted on 01/11/2006 3:57:43 AM PST by WoofDog123
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Yulia has been up to all kinds of mischief. She also controls several of the telephone companies, and has it is rumored all kinds of money over seas.

She is however politically potent, and is going to be a player.

12 posted on 01/11/2006 4:23:29 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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Yulia has been up to all kinds of mischief. She also controls several of the telephone companies, and has it is rumored all kinds of money over seas.
She is however politically potent, and is going to be a player.


Yulia has more ambition than WJC, and there is no doubt she is determined to be Goddess of the Ukraine.
13 posted on 01/11/2006 5:55:20 AM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: timer

BTW Good point regarding the Shiner's hospitals. There's like 30 of them and they are FREE and PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION.

Unfortunatly many are on the verge of closing because they CAN'T GET ENOUGH PATIENTS!

If you know of a child in need you should really point them toward this amazing FREE HOSPITAL.


14 posted on 01/11/2006 6:31:23 AM PST by x5452
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Rush Limbaugh warned us about you mind-numbed robots...you must own LOTS of oil stocks...and millions of cars stuck in traffic jams are a JOY to you....

Nope, I am a hermit. I live in a cave with only a solar panel to provide electricity for my computer and wireless connection. I am a vegan and I worry that the plants I eat may really have feelings, too. I read once that plants emit a noise when cut. Takes all the pleasure out of eating.

15 posted on 01/11/2006 10:37:15 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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Never mind the fact that she wants to re-nationalize all the industry in the Ukraine.

I don't know how true this is- selloff of the steal giant Kryvorishstal' was her project.

You want to know what I think of Yulia?- I love her, but in Tymoshenko versus Yuschenko face-off I am backing Yuschenko. Her coming over to the "dark side" (joining Regions, SDPU and Communists in opposing Yuschenko) is very troubling and I hope it's a temporary tactic.

16 posted on 01/11/2006 11:53:30 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Just intone OM-OM-OM to them as you bite down...


17 posted on 01/11/2006 12:27:22 PM PST by timer
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As a shriner, a bit of inside info : 22 of them, 20 in US, 1 in canada and 1 in mexico city. Free of course, supported by a 6 to 9 billion fund(interest thereon). Our local shrine clubs are responsible for getting local kids to and from the hospitals(transportation funds), thus our circus and other fund raisers. As to occupancy being only about 40%, they have found that operating on them quickly and getting them back HOME is more cost effective than full time care in the hospital, you can see the business logic of that. I did get a chance to talk to Denny Hastert this summer about expanding our shrine hospital network into mash-type units in foreign countries(outlier clinics for our state side hospitals)but our national guys balked at the idea : we need more MONEY, more MEMBERS, the usual excuses...


18 posted on 01/11/2006 12:43:05 PM PST by timer
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What is of interest? * Tymoshenko’s alliance with Viktor Yanukovych and the Party of Regions.

Yes, Please take note, Yanukovikniks.

19 posted on 01/11/2006 4:41:06 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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Yes, Please take note, Yanukovikniks

Ahh, the Keyboard Commando woke up and issued his hourly slanders.
20 posted on 01/11/2006 6:10:29 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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