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1 posted on 01/10/2006 6:15:21 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 01/10/2006 6:16:46 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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We're doomed, Patrick. Doomed I tell you.

:)


3 posted on 01/10/2006 6:18:04 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I love it - a physicist named Putterman.


4 posted on 01/10/2006 6:20:53 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: PatrickHenry
Cold fusion and "failed to replicate." Seen it before.
5 posted on 01/10/2006 6:22:12 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry
The key theorist behind the 'tiny bubbles' approach to tabletop fusion:


6 posted on 01/10/2006 6:22:30 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: PatrickHenry

bump


7 posted on 01/10/2006 6:23:41 PM PST by Argus
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To: PatrickHenry

You know I always suspected that percolated coffee provided more energy.


9 posted on 01/10/2006 6:24:59 PM PST by kcar (theUNsucks.com)
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To: PatrickHenry

10 posted on 01/10/2006 6:25:54 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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Another obvious problem is that even if fusion does occur, how do you get substantial energy out past the fluid that is sonoluminescing? Sure the fluid itself can transfer the energy, but while it is doing that, it is largely no longer available for the reaction.


11 posted on 01/10/2006 6:27:04 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PatrickHenry
You forgot a picture of the experiment...


12 posted on 01/10/2006 6:27:35 PM PST by Turbopilot (Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
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13 posted on 01/10/2006 6:27:38 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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The fact that Nature touched this one sparks my interest. Has to have a net gain before it's groundbreaking, though. Whoever pulls that one off will probably be remembered as one of the greatest scientists.


14 posted on 01/10/2006 6:28:11 PM PST by mysterio
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To: PatrickHenry

This one is a lot closer to reality than the Pons-Fleishman experiment. Still, it would be next to impossible to get more energy out than is put in because of the nature of the acoustic mechanism. It might produce some useful physics, perhaps a few papers, maybe a PhD sometime.


16 posted on 01/10/2006 6:31:56 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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'sonofusion"? "sonoluminescence"?

Sonovabitch! Here we go again!


18 posted on 01/10/2006 6:35:13 PM PST by adorno
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To: PatrickHenry; RightWhale

Perhaps the most amusing, and telling aspect of the heady
Pons-Fleishman days was that the proponents were reportedly
running their tests with no provision for shielding from any
likely radiation from the supposed reactions, whereas the
skeptics trying to duplicate were using shielding just in
case they were mistaken.

Had P-F been correct, we'd likely now have "too cheap to
meter" energy, and a bunch of dead champions of same.


21 posted on 01/10/2006 6:44:21 PM PST by Boundless
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[Blast a liquid with waves of ultrasound and tiny bubbles of gas are created, which release a burst of heat and light when they implode. The core of the bubble reaches 15,000° C]


This is not a rehash of that cold fusion baloney.

But creating localized very high temperatures is relatively easy to do if you only want to create microscopic amounts of fusion reactions. The difficult part is using the fusion to make significant amounts of heat in a controlled process that can be used to generate electricity.


23 posted on 01/10/2006 6:49:42 PM PST by spinestein (I donated to FreeRepublic because it's VALUABLE to me.)
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To: PatrickHenry

If they do achieve fusion, an expected result would be an intense neutron radiation field (as well as gamma radiation).

The fusion reaction between two deuterium atoms is:

D + D yields Helium-3 plus a neutron and gamma radiation


29 posted on 01/10/2006 7:10:25 PM PST by punster
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I thought this thread was going to have something to do with intel chips inside Macs now.


38 posted on 01/10/2006 8:51:46 PM PST by 1L
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It's already been invented...I've seen it!


51 posted on 01/11/2006 11:12:27 AM PST by RockinRight (The Republicans Suck Less than the Democrats)
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