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Calif. lawmakers: No more executions until we rethink the death penalty
Court TV ^ | 1/10/6 | J.K. Dineen

Posted on 01/10/2006 1:48:40 PM PST by SmithL

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Criminal-lovers in the Legislature.
1 posted on 01/10/2006 1:48:43 PM PST by SmithL
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When you've got a state full of killers, your constituents don't like the death penalty.


2 posted on 01/10/2006 1:50:37 PM PST by Brilliant
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The only thing that should be re-thought, is the snails pace at which they are executed. IMHO.


3 posted on 01/10/2006 1:52:02 PM PST by jw777
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I don't have any problem passing laws that are designed to make sure that only the guilty are executed. Tookie was clearly guilty, however, just as is this other guy whose execution is coming up.


4 posted on 01/10/2006 1:52:51 PM PST by Brilliant
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If this Moratorium on executions is not coincided with a moratorium on murders what good is it?

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What We Are About To Do Here Is What The Good Lord Would Call A Cleansing of the Wicked. I Call It A Good Old Fashioned Texas Ass Kicking.
5 posted on 01/10/2006 1:53:12 PM PST by speed_addiction (And the Lord said, "Who shall I send? Who will stand for us?" Said I, "Here I am...Send me.")
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Okay, thinking... thinking... thinking...

Yep. It's a good idea.

Can we get on with them now?


6 posted on 01/10/2006 2:02:45 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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but for Californians a period of intense soul-searching over the death penalty may just be starting.

Californians have souls?

< /sorry, just kidding >

7 posted on 01/10/2006 2:02:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"No one on death row is going anywhere

That's the problem!

Let me guess -- these clowns want to save the life of Scott Peterson???

8 posted on 01/10/2006 2:04:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Assemblyman Paul Koretz, one of AB 1121's co-sponsors, said he is not trying to subvert the state's death penalty law . . .

Baloney.

9 posted on 01/10/2006 2:04:59 PM PST by dighton
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I don't have any problem passing laws that are designed to make sure that only the guilty are executed. Tookie was clearly guilty, however, just as is this other guy whose execution is coming up.

If you really analyze what the proponent said in the article, it isn't about guilt. It's about rich folks having a better chance than poor folks of getting away with their crime, because they didn't have "bad lawyers". His solution isn't to make it harder for the rich, but to make it easier for the poor to get loophole reprieves.

10 posted on 01/10/2006 2:14:05 PM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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Here we go again.

What's that old saying about "Justice delayed ..."?

11 posted on 01/10/2006 2:17:32 PM PST by IronJack
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Better yet, why not just throw open the doors and let 'em all go free? As that judge the other day said, prison isn't going to help that child molestor. Think of all the tax dollars that would save and Arnie could balance the budget.

/s


12 posted on 01/10/2006 2:35:08 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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I'd rather have the sponsors and co-sponsors of AB 1121 executed, than have this bill become law.


13 posted on 01/10/2006 2:37:14 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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California Inmate Says He's Too Old, Ill to Die Lawyers Ask Schwarzenegger for Clemency; 'He's Been Fully Punished'

By John Ritter, USA TODAY

(Jan. 10) -- Less than a month after the uproar over gang leader Stanley "Tookie" Williams' clemency bid and execution, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has another mercy plea on his desk.

Though both involve multiple killers, Clarence Allen's case bears little resemblance to Williams'.

14 posted on 01/10/2006 3:01:09 PM PST by evad
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I thought Schwarzenegger denied Allen's clemency request already.


15 posted on 01/10/2006 3:05:24 PM PST by IronJack
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"I thought Schwarzenegger denied Allen's clemency request already."

Dunno. Here's the only mention in the article.

Allen's is the fourth clemency petition before Schwarzenegger since he took office in November 2003. He had denied three, including the one from Williams in December. "I don't think Schwarzenegger has created reason for optimism" in Allen's case, Semel says. "On the other hand, it's not over until it's over."

16 posted on 01/10/2006 3:18:43 PM PST by evad
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To: SmithL
Funny, I thought most CA voters support the death penalty.
17 posted on 01/10/2006 3:19:31 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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intense soul-searching over the death penalty may just be starting.

According to the polls, 2/3 of California voters favor the death penalty. The 1/3 minority has already searched it's soul. They have decided what is best for the majority. Upon further soul searching they have realized that they have an excellent chance of over ruling the majority,

18 posted on 01/10/2006 3:24:14 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (This space for rent.)
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FWIW:

The bill passed the Assembly Public Safety Committee today on almost a straight party-line vote. (One Democrat declined to vote)


19 posted on 01/10/2006 3:29:03 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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The policticans seem to forget that Californians have already spoken on the issue of the death penalty. They support it.

The policticians seem to forget when the State Supreme Court started overturning every death penalty case that came before them that the voters kicked them off the courts.

The policticians seem to forget this is not a win win issue for them. There will be a price to pay if they go down this road


20 posted on 01/10/2006 3:34:51 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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