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But since Rob Portman has stated that a goal of "free trade" is to "eliminate poverty", and redistribution of wealth through aid-with-trade is one of the mechanisms, as a "free trader" you should be denouncing that, not calling me names.

Congratulations, you just repeated a mantra that the liberals believe - that one can only get rich at the expense of another. Wealth is something that grows, it is not a fixed amount that merely gets shifted from one to another. The increases in material wealth in the United States between 1950 and now should be enough to prove it - people drive better cars, live in bigger homes, afford more health care and so on. Wealth is created and multiplies.

Increases in economic activity, e.g., trade, help wealth to grow. You, on the other hand, believe that someone can only get rich by robbing you. Strange, that's what Karl Marx said. You're on the wrong site, Comrade.

And you wonder why I'm not nice to you.

Ivan

Congratulations, you just repeated a mantra that the liberals believe - that one can only get rich at the expense of another

No I didn't. I pointed out that Rob Portman is taking 2.7 billion taxpayer dollars and giving them away to foreign countries. This is wealth redistribution and nothing less. He says it, right in his statement. The only place that $2.7 billion is going to come from is OUR economy, its not going to grow on trees in south America, silly.

RE: "Congratulations, you just repeated a mantra that the liberals believe. . . . "

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I remain perplexed at the insistence that it's only liberals -- I swear I look at New Democrat On Line (ndol.org) and I see New Democrat Third Way "progressives" calling for an end to 20th century liberalism. I take that to mean an end to the traditional Democrats of Humphrey and Scoop Jackson.

Enter the Davos Democrat of the Clintons and -- IMO -- the bulk of the DNC and Rat stalwarts.

I read praise of "free trade" and free markets (the only way to create wealth, they admit -- it is after all called, The Third Way).

"Free trade" must be rules-based (their rules) which include ILO / UN human rights requirements and promote "social and economic" justice . They are totally against laissez faire capitalism, they assuage the anti-WTO by promises -- just be patient they advise the protesters.

What the hell else is the Davos crowd up to if not world socialism with them in charge?

Last September Bill Clinton had the first meeting of his own "Davos" -- the original Davos is not moving fast enough for him.

"What do we want?!" "Social justice!!" When do we want it? "Now!!"