[Steve_Seattle]

"In other words, in your ideal Security State, we're all guilty till proven innocent. You disgust me."

Guilty? Who was arrested? Who was jailed? Who was tried? Who was convicted? No one. You need to be more precise in your language. There have been many incidents in which protestors have attempted to gain illegal access to military installations; the government is just protecting the security of those installations by doing routine checks on people who present themselves at the gates without legitimate business.

[Romulus]

You need to be more precise in your language.

All right. You disgust me too.

Anyone who uses fear to advance a political agenda is a terrorist. Sadly that includes many on this forum. Authentic conservatives are in short supply these days.