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Raising the volume on what men think about feminism
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Posted on 01/10/2006 1:49:22 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: TAdams8591
jasonC->"That it is outrageous to suggest women who do not marry before a certain age are unlikely to, ever."you->The above sentiment is OUTRAGEOUS. It is saying that once women are physically beyond their prime, they are worthless to men and are things to be discarded. Plus, it isn't true. People of both sexes are getting married at later and later ages. And why is mature age only significant regarding women?
First JasonC's statement did not speak to the worth of anyone. It's like saying the sky is blue. What is, is. And sadly, TAdams8591, JasonC's statement is true. We've seen the reports of this for years now. Lots of studies all pretty much say the same thing. Marriage statistics drop hugely for women over a certain age. True, more and more people are getting married at older ages but as a percentage of the population the odds for any particular woman aren't good. Fortunately, I happen to believe, the odds are greatly superior for conservative women as conservative men are more the marrying type and we know what we want (conservative, traditional women). I see lots of women getting married at the churches I am familiar with but see Michael Douglas' ex-girlfriend (I can't say her name as I don't have pictures of his current girlfriend to post) and her crowd of liberal stormtrooper women going single and wondering why.
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posted on
01/12/2006 5:50:12 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: USMMA_83
YOU ARE ONE CREEPY GUY JOHN...SCARY AS HELL How so?
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posted on
01/12/2006 5:51:14 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: JasonC
Marriage after 40 is a shadow of the real thing, and no society can accept it as a substitute for the real thing. As better for those doing it than nothing, perhaps, but that is utterly irrelevant to the public policy issue involved. Have to disagree with you here JC. Men and women both function far better married than single. While an oldeer marriage is not likely to produce children (although many older couples adopt) it does produce two more productive members of society who stay healthy and happy longer then they would as singles.
Marriage is honorable in all.
683
posted on
01/12/2006 5:55:10 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: John O
I've got your back this time around John :~D
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:01:23 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: TAdams8591
I was gone for hours and you guys are still at it.Story of my life ;~D Thank you, TA :~D
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:45:49 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: John O
I disagree too! Marriage is wonderful at any age (at least it can be!). I've been married 20 years, and I'm 50; according to what Jason says, there was no reason for my husband and me to stay married after we could no longer procreate, and we should have divorced. Sorry, won't do it.
To: linda_22003
Nobody should divorce, unless one or both are criminal. Stop putting nonsense in other people's mouths, and speak for yourself.
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posted on
01/12/2006 6:58:38 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
Aww. Still cranky, I see. :)
To: John O
It can be as honorable as you please, it is still a shadow of the real thing when it is childless. In case nobody noticed, childless marriages equal utter silence shortly thereafter. Marriage is becoming part of something larger, the chain of life that merely passes through the living, without being exhausted in them. As a matter of mere law, the possibility of children is acknowledged as the purpose of marriage. As a matter of public policy, a society that prefers childless marriage or marriage so late a high portion of them become childless regardless of preferences, commits suicide. We don't get to make these things up to suit our romantic ideas of equality. Peoples that try to simply disappear.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:03:31 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: John O; HairOfTheDog; TAdams8591; USMMA_83; linda_22003
Do you people ever sleep!?!?! ;)
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:17:20 AM PST
by
najida
(Armadillos dug 2 dozen holes in my yard last night-- in an attempt to break my ankles this morning.)
To: NYpeanut
A feminist is anyone who identifies with feminism. Not the dreamy abstraction of all things right and true between their ears, but the real thing out there in the real world full of screeching people and actual practices, smashing family life and murdering innocents. What's a communist? Is it just people who believes everyone should receive the full rewards of their labor? Or is it a real historical and political movement that took over entire countries and killed millions?
Those who ID with feminism and support it, have a lot to answer for, because their muscle and their blindness pushed all the crap of the activists. And they need to cut it out. Many have by now, most can see the damage it has done. By your dictionary, #2, the movement, which is organized around something quite different from that belief, is the real thing.
Do we need a new word for it? No, we don't need a word for it at all. We need the ideological movement to cease utterly, to be smashed politically, and to have no adherents. Nobody needs them, for anything. You don't need a scrap of feminism to be moral, to want nice things of any description, for yourself, your family, or others. They simply have nothing to do with it.
Feminism sold the cockamamie notion that a grand conspiracy of immoral oppressors was taking away their flowers and puppy dogs, and it was just a flat out lie. They then pretend that ordinary women must rise up and side with them in political struggle against non-existent beasts. And paints pictures of said beasts on unoffending men all over. Making all of it up. All we need to do is stop listening to them and stop believing their divisions and their peddled hatred. And then just act as ordinary, non-ideological, non-Stalinist human beings, in accordance with ordinary morality.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:18:03 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: najida
Sure. I wasn't on after about 6 pm eastern last evening, until about 8 am this morning. I pop in and out for a few minutes at a time during the day, but Real Life (tm) definitely comes first at home, where as a dried-up, elderly woman unfit for procreation, I have to find other ways to keep my husband happy. ;-D
To: John O
Thank you John. You made excellent sense.
Accept my apology also. I have buttons that get pushed also. I hope you find what you want in life :)
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:20:15 AM PST
by
najida
(Armadillos dug 2 dozen holes in my yard last night-- in an attempt to break my ankles this morning.)
To: TAdams8591
Yep, it did turn out to be a good thread. :)
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:21:05 AM PST
by
najida
(Armadillos dug 2 dozen holes in my yard last night-- in an attempt to break my ankles this morning.)
To: JasonC
Stop putting nonsense in other people's mouths, and speak for yourself.You should take your own advice.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:21:26 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: linda_22003
You've no idea. Anybody who thinks they are getting "cranky" from me on this thread, imagine getting the like not from one dismissable person on an internet bulletin board in one thread over a day or so, but everyday, everywhere, from a quarter of all people you meet, for 25 years. With the greatest possible impudence and the least possible concern for what you think, simply using you as a prop to make points to others, always at your expense. Now try it in an auditorum with thousands of fans cheering every put down, and growling at you every time you try to reply. Then maybe you will have the beginings of an inkling of what modern men think about your precious feminism. Except the real one also takes away your kids, your house, and your job if you lose you temper, any time in the 25 years. And then they think I'm rude! LOL.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:22:35 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
"Anybody who thinks they are getting "cranky" from me on this thread, imagine getting the like not from one dismissable person on an internet bulletin board in one thread over a day or so, but everyday, everywhere, from a quarter of all people you meet, for 25 years."
Sounds like you don't get along with very many people. :)
To: linda_22003
No one can get along with a feminist or any other variey of Stalinist. It is up to them and they never want to. They live to goad and make enemies, and I for one say let 'em have all the enemy they can stomach.
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:26:38 AM PST
by
JasonC
To: najida
Do you people ever sleep!?!?! ;) Sure! I slept from 655 to 684. :~D
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:28:04 AM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: najida
Do you people ever sleep!?!?! ;) I think I did once. What's it like?
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posted on
01/12/2006 7:36:26 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
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