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Judge Blocks Timber Sales in Three States
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| GENE JOHNSON
Posted on 01/09/2006 8:18:26 PM PST by SmithL
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To: schu
There is no reason to log old growthAbsolutely. Old growth is eternal. It never changes. The trees never die.......
21
posted on
01/09/2006 9:11:42 PM PST
by
forester
(An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: SierraWasp; Torie
22
posted on
01/09/2006 9:12:13 PM PST
by
wallcrawlr
(Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
To: SierraWasp
Took the bait didja? Looked like sarcasm to me...
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:13:28 PM PST
by
forester
(An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: schu
WHAT is "old growth" to you? Does it have to be dead and dying? Or can it just be old, and ready to bite the dust in a windstorm?
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:14:20 PM PST
by
goodnesswins
(Lies never sleep)
To: forester; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; FOG724; calcowgirl; Amerigomag; Czar; ElkGroveDan; dalereed
I'm thrilled he said that, but honest to God, forester, I'm gettin more pist-off by the second here... Aanasted is only ONE out of 80 pinheads in two houses full of pinheads in Sacramento to say ANYTHING making any bleepin sense whatsoever!!!
We need some more credible voices, not just one "John the Baptist" cryin out in the wilderness!!! We gotta have summa them metro-sexual pinheads speakin out the same danged way because nobody's listenin to Sam but you and me!!!
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:15:42 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
To: SierraWasp; Torie
Sarcasm's not just a river in Egypt.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:19:56 PM PST
by
SmithL
(Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Lift up your gates and sing, Hosana in the highest! Hosana to your King!)
To: wallcrawlr; forester; Torie
"I assume its sarcasm."I'm not so sure about that... based on opionions from the past... We'll see, I suppose... If he/she comes back to support it!
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:21:26 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
To: All
Wildfires? What wildfires?
Our friends the watermelons ride again, folks.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:21:57 PM PST
by
AZ_Cowboy
("There they go again...")
To: forester
Ewwwwwwww how bitingly sarcastic! Ewwwwwwwww!!! (snort!)
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:23:20 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
To: SmithL
"Sarcasm's not just a river in Egypt."Certainly not, but we know what is... don't we fellas?!?
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:25:41 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
To: SierraWasp
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:29:41 PM PST
by
Torie
To: goodnesswins
The old growth wws logged off over a century ago, what these idiots are trying to protect is new growth that just got old.
Time to harvest the "ripe" trees.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:31:41 PM PST
by
dalereed
To: forester
Here's what I said about it just a couple a days ago:
To: goldstategop; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie
"Voters have approved public works bonds in the past and we've yet to see one new freeway, bridge, port and dam built in California."
Over 60% will be squandered on mandatory GovernMental EnvironMental Impact Reports (EIR's) other studies in stupidity, EnvironMental CONsultants fees, EnvironMental Lawyers fees and general EnvironMental Agency bureaucratic waste, a$$ covering and stumbling.
This will be followed immediately by EnvironMental litigation which will consume the other 40% in costly contract delays and cost over-runs which is exactly why nothing EVER gits done in this hog-tied, ungovernable state of confusion!!!
Hey ccg! Put that in your pencil sharpener and then shoot me a beer!!!
27 posted on 01/07/2006 6:01:54 PM PST by SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:33:46 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
To: SmithL
I don't understand. If the prez says one thing and a judge another, why would the sale still be illegal?
Judges do not have final authority, as far as I know. This is ridiculous.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:37:11 PM PST
by
JudgemAll
(Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
To: SierraWasp
My brother makes his living leading birding tours. I told him that I thought the endangered species act should be repealed in its entirety. It is typically used for reasons that have nothing to do with species, and everything due to anti development impulses. I favor zoning and other restrictions on development, but not via the crude proxy of species, with the Robes as king.
And there you have it. I tossed you a red meat morsel, which is probably more than you deserve. :)
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:37:44 PM PST
by
Torie
To: JudgemAll
What the prez says is irrelevant. One must revert to the statute, and the courts in interpretating it. That is our system.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:42:32 PM PST
by
Torie
To: SierraWasp
Thanks for the repost as I missed that one - that looks like two of us that see the problems in throwing money at the prob....I mean, investing in infrastructure. Does bankrupting the State bring it all down maaaaaaan?!?!~?!
And yes, I can spew cynacism and sarcasm wit da best of 'em....
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:42:32 PM PST
by
forester
(An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: Torie
Of course, but what you like and what I like's got nothin to do with this story! Didn't you see that story in the S.F. Chronicle by the naturalist that discovered that the New York Barred Owls were migrating west and invading the Spotted Owl's habitat and gobbling up all it's food supply and BREEDING IT OUT OF EXISTANCE!!!
Now get a grip and quit supporting this tyrannical Clinton appointee just because everybody likes wise old Mr. Owl of Walt Disney cartoon fame... PHhhhhht!!!
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:43:23 PM PST
by
SierraWasp
(EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
To: goodnesswins; forester
Therein lies the dilemma, hence my comment about being dubious. If by "old growth" they mean original growth, or never been cut, which is the traditional meaning, then I would NOT support these sales.
First, there is no need, plenty of second and third growth, second there is but 5% left here in the NW and lastly, if you have every walked through an ancient forest, you would not want the last of it cut. Let nature take its course.
schu
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:44:47 PM PST
by
schu
To: SierraWasp
New York Barred Owls Clearly those owls must be Democrats (steakers from New York), and thus, beyond per adventure, not wise.
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posted on
01/09/2006 9:45:45 PM PST
by
Torie
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