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To: puroresu
Remember Gould & Lewontin's war against Wilson?

Wilson won.

And the widespread silence in the scientific community over the Harvard president's gender remarks a few months ago?

Steven Pinker, widely reviled by even the more reasonable of IDers on this site, spoke up forcefully for Summers, as did many other scientists.

Back in the 80's and 90's, scientists like Paul Gross fought a successful war against feminists trying to intrude their ideology into science. It was that war that turned me into a conservative, as I appreciated the threat to science from the far left. The threat is now on the other side. It is fundamentalists who are trying to force their ideology into science, often using the same tools the leftists use. SSDD. (Same stuff, different doer)

68 posted on 01/10/2006 5:25:43 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor; All

What has damaged the Public school system more in the past
40 years....some creationists or the socialist ideology of the left?

What crazy anti-religious weed have you been smoking?

Feminism has inserted itself into our school systems and the education, science departments get cut in favor of greenist enviromentalist ideology. Instead of wholesome basic education, our public school students contend with multiculturism. Traditional western history is out in favor of revisionist anti-American one world government civics. In some schools, science may be taught by the gym teacher.

So are you saying religious folk caused all this? Religious Christian folk aren't plying the pro-homosexual education and culture in our schools. They aren't demanding that Muslim education be foisted on our students as it is in California...just demanding an equal voice The anti-religious have done their jobs well in much of our nation's public schools, pockets of resistance such as Kansas or Dover notwithstanding. You have your secular school systems already...now our nation will very soon live with the results of that culture.

So I demand an answer from all of you Evo folks...has Christianity ruined the public schools over the past 40 years?...has its absence ruined the schools? I dare anyone say that it is Christians that are really a threat to the public school systems and keep a straight face....in light of the ineffectiveness of the dumbed down school systems we now see!

Can the highly exalted science Elite reform the schools?....good luck getting that one past the NEA and the unions!(though science folk and religious folk could band together to get the job done)


71 posted on 01/10/2006 6:10:45 AM PST by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Back in the 80's and 90's, scientists like Paul Gross fought a successful war against feminists trying to intrude their ideology into science.

Successful? How can you say that considering the public policies instituted after claims to scientific research-- i.e. The Violence Against Woman Act, affirmative action for woman applicants to engineering schools, Ritalin prescriptions for rowdy young boys etc.

Summers certainly got slapped down.

Feminism is dying because what it advocated has been instituted and the average person can see that it is disasterous -- with no help whatsover from academia.

72 posted on 01/10/2006 6:38:53 AM PST by Tribune7
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