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Trucking companies report engine problems after switching to blended fuel(Biodiesel) WI
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | 1/8/2005 | RICK BARRETT

Posted on 01/08/2006 12:14:59 PM PST by UB355

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1 posted on 01/08/2006 12:15:04 PM PST by UB355
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To: UB355

We diesel-powered auto owners understand the problem and cure. See http://www.tdiclub.com for threads re wvo and cold weather problems. I'm moving from the warm South to the frozen North and my TDI has been on cold-weather fuel suppliment for a month now.


2 posted on 01/08/2006 12:19:19 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: UB355

Wrap a 12-volt heat tape around the fuel filter. Problem solved.


3 posted on 01/08/2006 12:20:33 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: UB355

Send the repair bill to the local enviro-wacko. HOw about a reparations tax on Pries owners?


4 posted on 01/08/2006 12:28:52 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Raoul's First Law of Journalism: BIAS = LAYOFFS)
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To: UB355
Another theory is that the Biodiesel, which evidently has some solvent properties, is cleaning crap out of the system which is clogging the fuel filters.

This theory was explained to me recently in some detail but this isn't my area and the cold extremes of the Upper Midwest is not a concern out in the Southwest.

As far as I can tell from the article these vehicles are apparently converting to Biodiesel and have not been Biodiesel from day one.

5 posted on 01/08/2006 12:32:46 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Halt W's illegals' amnesty. Get GOP elected statewide in CA.)
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To: UB355
Even though the MSM doesn't mention it in the mad rush to "bio-diesel", the fact is that the "Eeeevil Oil Companies" spend billions of dollars just to make sure this kind of garbage doesn't end up in fuel tanks. It's easy not to appreciate what they do, since we all tend to take it for granted, but dump a few ounces of water in your tank and you'll see what I mean.

By the way, wasn't "bio-diesel" called "bio-mass" in the past, or am I confusing it.

In any case, I'll take some pure Exxon for my car any day of the week (preferably from Prince William Sound, Alaska), and I'll let the Greenies learn the anatomy of their fuel systems, as the repair bills roll in.
6 posted on 01/08/2006 12:33:10 PM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: UB355

Well if they would filter out the left over fries and onion ring debris it would help.


7 posted on 01/08/2006 12:35:30 PM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,lawyers,judges & politicians All the same. Useless!!!)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Come now, Young minds breed fresh ideas Doctor. :)

Biodiesel, gas-electric hybrids, hydrogen-powered vehicles are not the technology rat holes that ethanol or natural gas has been.

8 posted on 01/08/2006 12:38:53 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Halt W's illegals' amnesty. Get GOP elected statewide in CA.)
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To: patton
Wrap a 12-volt heat tape around the fuel filter. Problem solved.

Doesn't solve it for me, even if the entire fuel system were wrapped. There is no AC where I park, and the batteries wouldn't start the truck in the morning if they'd been supplying heat tape all night.

9 posted on 01/08/2006 12:41:00 PM PST by steve86 (PRO-LIFE AND ANTI-GREED)
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To: newzjunkey

The Army had the same problems. They started running a lot of the trucks on JP8 instead of Diesel and the JP8 was cleaning out the fuel lines, and putting everything into the filters.

Once the lines are cleaned out it seems to run fine.


10 posted on 01/08/2006 12:42:54 PM PST by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: UB355
Valley Cartage buys fuel from a Minnesota supplier that mixed a soybean blend into diesel fuel last fall. Minnesota truckers were required to use a 2% biodiesel blend under a state law that currently is on hold while state officials scramble to learn what's wrong with the fuel.

If the other 98% of the fuel wasn`t cut 50-50 with Kerosene than they will gell up.

It happens every year when it gets cold,especially if the cold comes earlier than normal and there is still uncut fuel in the tank.

11 posted on 01/08/2006 12:43:27 PM PST by carlr
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To: BearWash

The Germans invented a fix for that - they call it a "Schwingfeuerheizgeraet." Think gas-powered hair-dryer. Works like a charm, too. Even peels paint.


12 posted on 01/08/2006 12:57:08 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Iowa Granny

ping


13 posted on 01/08/2006 1:15:29 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: UB355
"Meanwhile, researchers are testing fuel samples and digging into clogged fuel filters, trying to find the core of the problem."

Um, shouldn't that be done first??

How do I become a researcher? I heard it pays good and my ass can get fattened up.

14 posted on 01/08/2006 1:24:58 PM PST by BobS
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This may sound far out, but try diluent lithium oil in your diesel tank. Supposedly you'll get about 10% to 15% more mpg. If you had read Infinite Energy Magazine you'd know how it works. Appearently the 1500 deg F temp in the chamber is enough to FUSE 2 lithium nuclei into beryllium 8 nuclei, which has a half life of a millionth of a second, breaking down into 2 helium 4 nuclei(alpha particles). The resulting 1,000,000 deg CF FUSION temperature regime within the 1500 deg temperature regime is enough to clean the chamber as slick as a whistle, and innocuous helium gas is emitted thru the tailpipe. And as you know, a piece of paper will stop an alpha particle. This LI+LI>BE>2A fusion/fission reaction has been proven by an alpha particle detector near an open boiler flame. Add the LI oil and out come the alpha particles. So, you've got bio-gunk in your bio-diesel? Add diluent LITHIUM grease....


15 posted on 01/08/2006 1:30:08 PM PST by timer
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I tried that but my truck shot into space and I never saw it again.


16 posted on 01/08/2006 1:42:09 PM PST by steve86 (PRO-LIFE AND ANTI-GREED)
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To: UB355
Estes Park school district had to cancel school because they could not get one bus started during the last cold spell.
17 posted on 01/08/2006 2:02:51 PM PST by mountainlyons (Happy new year. I was almost off to a good start.)
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To: UB355; B4Ranch; Squantos; glock rocks

Minnesota biodiesel rule lifted again
By Lance Orr

After receiving complaints about clogged fuel filters, Minnesota suspended its biodiesel law for three weeks.

The state passed a law in late September mandating that diesel fuel be blended with 2 percent biodiesel. Due to the complaints, the Weights and Measures Division of the Minnesota Department of Commerce issued a 21-day variance Dec. 23 on the biodiesel requirement.

The 21-day period will give fuel producing and distributing industries time to identify and remove any product that may be out of specification from the distribution system. The variance expires on Jan. 13 at midnight.

This is not the first time Minnesota biodiesel legislation has hit a stumbling block. A 10-day variance was issued Oct. 28, less than a month after the 2 percent legislation was passed.

“There were quality problems at the terminal with the biodiesel supplies,” said Bruce Gordon, spokesman for the Minnesota Department of Commerce. “The biodiesel fuel did not meet specifications that were set out in law, so the department issued the variance to prevent any sort of supply problem.”

Minnesota’s 2 percent law was passed in 2002 but did not go into effect until the state could produce the necessary amounts of biodiesel.

Minnesota now has three plants that can produce a combined 63 million gallons of biodiesel per year, said Ralph Groschen of the Minnesota Department of Agriculture. The plants are in Brewster, Redwood Falls and Albert Lea.

While there may be multiple reasons for the recent cold weather fuel problems, preliminary tests show that some biodiesel sold in Minnesota does not conform to required specifications. Samples of fuel and filters have been collected statewide for further testing, officials said.

"The Department of Commerce and the [Minnesota Governor Tim] Pawlenty Administration remain committed to biodiesel," said Edward Garvey, the department’s deputy commerce commissioner.

Biodiesel is a clean-burning alternative diesel fuel that contains no petroleum. It is produced from domestic, renewable resources and is as much as 75 percent cleaner than fossil-derived fuels, eliminating an engine’s need to use sulfur as a lubricant. Made from soybeans, agricultural oils and fats, or recycled restaurant grease, it can be blended with petroleum diesel to be used with little or no modification.

Anyone with biodiesel problems should contact the University of Minnesota’s Biodiesel Helpline at (651) 330-0450.


18 posted on 01/08/2006 2:31:49 PM PST by Pete-R-Bilt
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To: UB355

ref bump


19 posted on 01/08/2006 2:45:54 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: timer

What will it do for cleaning out fuel filters? That's where the article says the majority of problems appear to be.


20 posted on 01/08/2006 3:26:47 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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