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Dawkins: Religion equals 'child abuse'
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/8/06

Posted on 01/07/2006 10:26:53 PM PST by LibWhacker

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To: Alouette
There is not even evidence, other than the bible, that the ancient Israelites committed any massacres of Canaanites or Midianites or Moabites. If the bible is just a bunch of made up myths, it never even happened.

LOL. Nice point.

101 posted on 01/09/2006 6:54:06 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Hitler was a fruit loop. You're utterly dishonest if you think his insane ideas are representative of the tenets of Christianity.


102 posted on 01/09/2006 6:55:17 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Just mythoughts
" Then how about doing a bit of retracting yourself and stop associating Hitler with Christianity."

Because he used a perverted form of Christianity. He associated himself with it; to deny that would be to lie. I have made it clear that he didn't speak for 99% of Christians. I will retract nothing. There is no evidence Hitler was an atheist.

"Ha given what is scientifically known about genetics, creationists whether they realize it or not do subscribe to a form of evolution. There is no recorded miracles that inserted different genes to result in what many creationists claim happened."

How is this a refutation of my statement that it was pre-Darwinians, and creationist ones to boot, who developed the concept of race? Why must you always ignore the question and change the subject?

"I understand better than you thing what is called 'natural' selection. Problem is that the natural dies and rots hardly something to get to entrenched in."

You prove my point; you haven't a clue as to what natural selection is, yet you feel obligated to keep communicating your ignorance to the world.

"Guess you missed that evolutionary post, I am not going to spend the time finding it but I will promise the next time I see a similar or exact response posted to give you a ping."

In other words, no citations. :)
103 posted on 01/09/2006 6:56:26 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: r9etb

"Hitler was a fruit loop. You're utterly dishonest if you think his insane ideas are representative of the tenets of Christianity."

And you obviously didn't read my posts where I made it clear that Hitler's was a perverted form of Christianity. My point was that he was no atheist as some claim.


104 posted on 01/09/2006 6:59:08 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
And you obviously didn't read my posts where I made it clear that Hitler's was a perverted form of Christianity. My point was that he was no atheist as some claim.

I did read your posts, and unfortunately the main point I got from them is that you were equating Hitler with Christianity.

Hitler may well have been a non-atheist. But he was also insane. Your mistake lies in equating the views of an insane man as being indicative of a theistic point of view.

I'm sure we can also find an insane person who reflects your general POV. Shall we tar your beliefs on that basis?

105 posted on 01/09/2006 7:06:09 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

" I did read your posts, and unfortunately the main point I got from them is that you were equating Hitler with Christianity."

Even after I say Hitler's is a perverted form of Christianity? Your reading comprehension isn't very good.

"Hitler may well have been a non-atheist. But he was also insane. Your mistake lies in equating the views of an insane man as being indicative of a theistic point of view."

*Insanity* is a legal definition. I don't know that he was *insane*. I do know he was evil. And I also know of no evidence he wasn't a theist, though a twisted one. I made it very clear that this was not saying that theists or Christians are like Hitler. What part of that do you not comprehend?


106 posted on 01/09/2006 7:13:41 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"Because he used a perverted form of Christianity. He associated himself with it; to deny that would be to lie. I have made it clear that he didn't speak for 99% of Christians. I will retract nothing. There is no evidence Hitler was an atheist."

Wait a minute to pervert a thing changes what was, yet you associate the original as the perverted thing. Hitler was an evil pervert and he was not Christian. Yet you keep pushing the word Christianity as a form of Hitlerism. There is a Book that instructs what standard Christ set, very easy to discover that Hitler used the political and economic situation to pervert the thinking of a whole nation under education and his form of religion.

" How is this a refutation of my statement that it was pre-Darwinians, and creationist ones to boot, who developed the concept of race? Why must you always ignore the question and change the subject?"


Was not intended to be a refutation rather a commonality of belief systems.

"You prove my point; you haven't a clue as to what natural selection is, yet you feel obligated to keep communicating your ignorance to the world."

As Christ said you are in this world but not of this world, like I care what the world thinks.

I told you that I was not going to take the time to dig out the citation, but I will ping you the next time I see the crowing of an evolutionists of the lessor among them for being lessor to preserve their environmental conditions.
107 posted on 01/09/2006 7:14:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
What part of that do you not comprehend?

The part where you clearly don't understand what you're saying.

108 posted on 01/09/2006 7:17:38 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Just mythoughts
"Wait a minute to pervert a thing changes what was, yet you associate the original as the perverted thing. Hitler was an evil pervert and he was not Christian."

He was a Christian to some extent, though his was a perverted Christianity. He was not following the teachings of the Bible as we know them, but he did include a sick version of Jesus in his *theology*. Why is this distinction so hard to grasp?

"Yet you keep pushing the word Christianity as a form of Hitlerism. "

No, I never did that. Stop lying. I said the opposite.

" Was not intended to be a refutation rather a commonality of belief systems."

That's why you posted it as a response to my statement that it wasn't Darwin who invented the concept of race? It was not invented by pre-Darwinian evolutionists, it was invented by pre-Darwinian creationists (as 99% of scientists were then). Does that mean that creationism is racist? Not at all. It means that some creationists were.

" As Christ said you are in this world but not of this world, like I care what the world thinks."

So, you don't really care what natural selection is as long as you can use your definition to suit your aims?

"I told you that I was not going to take the time to dig out the citation, but I will ping you the next time I see the crowing of an evolutionists of the lessor among them for being lessor to preserve their environmental conditions."

I won't hold my breath. :)
109 posted on 01/09/2006 7:22:54 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: LibWhacker
Scientist compares Moses to Hitler, calls New Testament 'sado-masochistic doctrine'

I believe in evolution, but this a-hole makes me wanna puke.

On him.

110 posted on 01/09/2006 7:23:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: r9etb

" The part where you clearly don't understand what you're saying."

Ah, a non-answer. :)


111 posted on 01/09/2006 7:24:17 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"He was a Christian to some extent, though his was a perverted Christianity. He was not following the teachings of the Bible as we know them, but he did include a sick version of Jesus in his *theology*. Why is this distinction so hard to grasp?

"Yet you keep pushing the word Christianity as a form of Hitlerism. "

No, I never did that. Stop lying. I said the opposite."


I think you need a break you are in a conflict with yourself.


112 posted on 01/09/2006 7:24:58 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: LibWhacker

Science is hard. Blasting religion is easy.


113 posted on 01/09/2006 7:26:48 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Just mythoughts
"I think you need a break you are in a conflict with yourself."

I think you need reading comprehension lessons. I did not say that Christianity was a form of Hitlerism, I said that Hitler used a warped for of Christianity. There is difference, at for those who are not illiterate.
114 posted on 01/09/2006 7:26:50 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

It isn't a "non-answer." You really don't seem to understand the implications of your statements. Or perhaps you do.


115 posted on 01/09/2006 7:27:24 AM PST by r9etb
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
He was a Christian to some extent, though his was a perverted Christianity. He was not following the teachings of the Bible as we know them, but he did include a sick version of Jesus in his *theology*. Why is this distinction so hard to grasp?

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To what Christian church did Hitler belong? How often did he attend?

How does the definition of a "Christian" involve someone who "was not following the teachings of the Bible as we know them"?

116 posted on 01/09/2006 7:28:53 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: LibWhacker

Dawkins discovers hypebole can be leveraged to make money, film at 11.


117 posted on 01/09/2006 7:29:13 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Well there you go, that fittest intellectual god declaring what is and what is not to us mere lessor fit. After all is it not the 'mind' that is what is the superior and fittest in the evolutionary chain???

To pervert Christianity means it is no longer Christianity, what part of that does your brain not process.
118 posted on 01/09/2006 7:30:47 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: r9etb

"It isn't a "non-answer." You really don't seem to understand the implications of your statements. Or perhaps you do."

Sure it's a non-answer. This one you sent is another. I understand the implications of what I wrote; why don't you actually say something and tell me what YOU think they are.


119 posted on 01/09/2006 7:31:40 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: trisham
"To what Christian church did Hitler belong? How often did he attend?"

Is that what makes someone a Christian?

"How does the definition of a "Christian" involve someone who "was not following the teachings of the Bible as we know them"?"

He believed that Jesus was the son of God. He also thought that Jesus was an Aryan warrior against the Jews; that's the perverted part of his theology. That is why, if you read what I said instead of posting without reading, you would know I said he was a Christian TO SOME EXTENT. He was also Evil. Does that mean I am saying that Christians are Hitler and that Christians are Evil? Only if you are a kindergarten level in logical thinking.
120 posted on 01/09/2006 7:35:45 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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