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To: quidnunc

A dear, conservative Jewish friend of mine mused: "Liberal Jews are God's test of obedience for the righteous gentiles." ....inferring that ritgheous gentiles find it difficult to love the liberal Jews...in accordance with His commandement.


7 posted on 01/07/2006 8:50:02 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: Conservative Goddess

Woody Allen: "Don't you see the rest of the country looks upon New York like we're left-wing, communist, Jewish, homosexual pornographers? I think of us that way sometimes and I live here. "


14 posted on 01/07/2006 9:00:37 PM PST by avile
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To: Conservative Goddess

Jews may be the chosen people, but it is not the first time God had to kill many of them for disobedience. Look what happen to them when Moses came down from the mountain and found many of them worshipping the Golden Calf. Look what happen to the land of Israel and Judah when the successor kings of Solomon failed and were destroyed and the people where carried away as slaves to Babylon. The Jewish people had several Disporas before the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 AD.


22 posted on 01/07/2006 9:10:48 PM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Conservative Goddess
"A dear, conservative Jewish friend of mine mused: "Liberal Jews are God's test of obedience for the righteous gentiles." ....inferring that ritgheous gentiles find it difficult to love the liberal Jews...in accordance with His commandement."

Strange twist. That conservative Jewish man, of course, wouldn't accept the New Testament, but Paul a Jew -- a "Hebrew of the Hebrews") taught "For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:..." (Romans 9:6). The idea in the passage is that just because someone is a member, physically or nationalistically, of the Israeli nation doesn't mean that God sees them as true seed of Abraham. Well, read all of Romans ch. 9, and then the last half of Romans ch. 2. But this is the position of Bible-believing Christians. We support Israel, but we don't believe that everyone calling themselves "Jews" are necessarily seen by God as true Israelites.
105 posted on 01/08/2006 4:32:20 AM PST by Free Baptist
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