Posted on 01/07/2006 8:30:28 PM PST by quidnunc
Danville, Va. – Everyone who worships at the Tabernacle quickly learns three facts about its deeply conservative pastor. He comes from a broken home. He rides a canary-yellow Harley. And he loves the Jews.
There is some murmuring about the motorcycle. But the 2,500 members of this Bible-believing, tradition-respecting Southern Baptist church in southern Virginia have embraced everything else about the Rev. Lamarr Mooneyham.
Out of his painful childhood experiences, Mooneyham, 57, preaches passionately about the importance of home. Out of his reading of the Bible, he preaches with equal passion about God's continuing devotion to the Jewish people.
"I feel jealous sometimes. This term that keeps coming up in the Old Book — the Chosen, the Chosen," says the minister, who has made three trips to Israel and named his sons Isaac, Jacob and Joseph. "I'm a pardoned gentile, but I'm not one of the Chosen People. They're the apple of his eye."
Scholars of religion call this worldview "philo-Semitism," the opposite of anti-Semitism. It is a burgeoning phenomenon in evangelical Christian churches across the country, a hot topic in Jewish historical studies and a wellspring of support for Israel.
Yet many Jews are nervous about evangelicals' intentions. In recent weeks, leaders of three of the nation's largest Jewish groups — the Anti-Defamation League, the American Jewish Committee and the Union for Reform Judaism — have decried what they see as a mounting threat to the separation of church and state from evangelicals emboldened by the belief that they have an ally in the White House and an opportunity to shift the Supreme Court.
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This is correct. I too was wondering where the author of the article had been. I've been listening to pro-Israel Christian preachers since early childhood. President Reagan was very much in tune with Christian preachers who were pr-Israel.
It goes back a lot further than Ronald Reagan.
"What Bible are you reading from?"
Probably the same one you read. Gal 3:26-29. The question revolves around whether it is fleshly or spiritual Israel that is the subject at hand. The are not all Israel who are of Israel.
Interesting.....Thanks for your insight.
"My pastor tonight noted that Christ did not come to destroy the law (OT), but to fulfill it!"
"Destroy" is the correct rendering of the Greek in that passage in Matthew. The meaning of the word is to tear down or disassemble. (New wine in old bottles.) He did not come to amend the old law. He did abolish it! Eph 2:14, Col 2:14, all of the Hebrews letter.
The did just that during the Crown Heights riots of 1991.
Dinkins and Cuomo overtly decided that the Black Coats of Brooklyn were less important politically than the "urban youth" vote.
Dinkins went on to say he was disgusted when the "Park Avenue Jews" stopped supporting him. The Dems are loathesome things.
DX>"Destroy" is the correct rendering of the Greek in that passage in Matthew. The meaning of the word is to tear down or disassemble. (New wine in old bottles.) He did not come to amend the old law. He did abolish it! Eph 2:14, Col 2:14, all of the Hebrews letter.
124 posted on 01/08/2006 8:38:30 AM MST by DX10
How do you read
John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
b'shem Y'shua
God has shown mercy to the Gentiles.
"How do you read
John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
b'shem Y'shua"
Precisly as written. Christ is speaking. In another place he said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except by me." I never heard of the term "replacement theology", but I do recognize that a dispensation is a system of rules regulating the affirs of men. Christ was not frustated in his ministry as he was crucified from the foundation of the world. Our reconcillation to God through Jesus Christ was always in the mind of God. Regards.
"That said, it continues to be debated on this thread whether or not that included the Jews."
Read Romans 11:13-25. That might help clear it up for you.
>>>"I'm a pardoned gentile, but I'm not one of the Chosen People. They're the apple of his eye."
How can he be so sure who "they" are, or even who he himself may be in God's eyes?
Deut 32:9-10
9 For the LORD's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye.
People, even pastors, don't read (and understand) the Scriptures enough to know the difference between Judah, Israel, Jacob, Joseph, etc. depending on the context.
Rom 11:25-27
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that ***blindness in part is happened to Israel***, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so ***all Israel shall be saved***: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
ALL Israel shall be saved. All of Israel is the apple of God's eye. This pastor wrongly equates the descendants of Judah with "all Israel".
What Jesus said about the Pharisees still applies today:
Matt 15:14
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
There's a big ditch coming up ahead.
Well said! Very well said.
Great posts, this one and the previous.
John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
b'shem Y'shua"
DX10>Precisly as written. Christ is speaking. In another place he said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. NO ONE comes to the Father except by me." I never heard of the term "replacement theology", but I do recognize that a dispensation is a system of rules regulating the affirs of men. Christ was not frustated in his ministry as he was crucified from the foundation of the world. Our reconcillation to God through Jesus Christ was always in the mind of God. Regards.
128 posted on 01/08/2006 9:04:41 AM MST by DX10
What are the commandments that we are asked by Y'shua to keep? b'shem Y'shua
that was a joke right?
Yes. I watch TV on occasion. Joseph, Joe, is usually a mafia don. Jake is his lawyer, the CPA, probably Reuben.
I've known a number of Josephs, only one I can think of is Jewish.
You might like our local palestinian Christian comedian.
Christian Fundamentalism Drives American Extremism [They do suicide bombasts]
Dang SJ, I know a slew of joseph goyim.....ranging from all denominations....
the surname Joseph is common among Jews and some Arab Christians....just as a side note
the only Abes and Moses I've known were either Jewish or black....blacks used to like Biblical names a lot before they started making names up that sounded Muzzie...a tragic turn that parallels the Great Society cliff dive....seriesly
Isn't it incongruous with belief in one universal almighty all-encompassing divinity to contend that favoritism from such is extended to a particular group?
Yep the Catholic Church now officially states that Jews Muslims (and I think just about everyone really) can go to Heaven. What a joke. No wonder churches are empty today.
Who is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-christ that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: but he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
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