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Poll: Most Say U.S. Needs Warrant to Snoop
AP ^ | 1/7/5

Posted on 01/07/2006 9:57:08 AM PST by squidly

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To: Condor51
****Hypothetical... NSA is listening to a conversation with a terrorist in Iraq and one in Boston. They are plotting to destroy the American economy by kidnapping Ted Kennedy and putting several distilleries out of business. What do you do?*** uh... give them Kennedy's home address?

According to this poll, most think it would be alright for the terrorist to kidnap Kennedy. End of story.

61 posted on 01/07/2006 11:05:17 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Here's a poll to conduct in this country...."do you think that monitoring phone calls to certain Middle East/Muslim countries might have prevented 9/11?"

Here's a poll to conduct in this country...."What percentage of the news that you view on TV and read in the paper do you believe to be true?"

62 posted on 01/07/2006 11:06:56 AM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: MineralMan
There is a process in place to do this, with retroactive warrants, if necessary. I'm still not sure we need to change that, since it seems perfectly workable to me.

I think I like the notion of retroactive warrants much less than the notion of monitoring conversations involving foreigners, given that the US person being monitored has already been "tagged" by having a foreign communication with a non US person with a known connection to foreign terrorists.

As I understand it, they did ask for, but not always get, warrants to monitor the internal/domestic communications of these individuals. Also as I understand it, the FISA judge or judges got their noses out of joint because the information from these overseas communications were used to obtain the warrants for the purely domestic communications

63 posted on 01/07/2006 11:08:46 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: MineralMan
"The question everyone needs to ask is: What about a liberal Dem administration? "

Why? You think the Constitution should be amended then?

"FRIDAY AUGUST 17th. IN CONVENTION
...Mr. MADISON and Mr. GERRY moved to insert "declare," striking out "make" war; leaving to the Executive the power to repel sudden attacks.
Mr. SH[E]RMAN thought it stood very well. The Executive shd. be able to repel and not to commence war."

No, you living constitutionalists never want to amend the Constitution- you just want to ignore it.

64 posted on 01/07/2006 11:10:13 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: El Gato

Eaker reporting for duty!


65 posted on 01/07/2006 11:11:58 AM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: atomicpossum
Most Americans couldn't tell you what 'NSA' stands for.

My Air Force Intelligence buddies used to refer to it as No Such Agency. That other agency was sometimes referred to as "Christians In Action". :)

66 posted on 01/07/2006 11:16:49 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Cboldt
1. Should the Bush administration be required to get a warrant from a judge before monitoring phone and internet communications between American citizens in the United States and suspected terrorists,

How convenient that they left off something like "located in foreign countries" or "suspected foreign terrorists".

67 posted on 01/07/2006 11:22:22 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: squidly

And what was the question? Did they say: if an Al Kay operative phones someone in the states, should the government have t have a wrarant before they can listen in? I bet not, I bet that it was more like can the government liisten in on YOUR converation with someone overseas.


68 posted on 01/07/2006 11:25:23 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: squidly

If this is true I think the only thing that might wake these people up is another attack on us. These people are in denial that anything other than a criminal act took place on 9/11. I wonder also exactly how the question was phrased and I wonder why the media and polls seem to always include in the title of articles and polls "domestic spying".

It isn't domestic spying it's terrorism spying, something we should be greatful that someone has the guts to take the initiative where and when circumstances demand.

Joan


69 posted on 01/07/2006 11:25:58 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: MineralMan

So you worked for NSA? Hummm... wonder when that was? I see from your FRpage that you were in the AF in the 60s. Well I retired from the AF in 83 and was in intelligence, not NSA however. I'm a little surprised that you would think Warrants, even after the fact ones, are needed in the case of monitoring Al Qaida terrorists conversations. You of all people should know that timeliness and secrecy are of the utmost concern in intelligence gathering and reporting. What do you think of the "whistleblower" who leaked this information? Since you are in favor of Warrants for NSA monitoring, I'm very curious to know your opinion on the so called "whistleblower" and if that person may have come from NSA. I have to beg forgiveness to the thread readers, but Mr. MineralMan says he does not respond to FReepMail. Wonder why that is?


70 posted on 01/07/2006 11:27:58 AM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! NOW.... PLEASE STAY THE COURSE!)
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To: Eaker; All
Eaker reporting for duty!

See, what did I tell y'all.

I'm proud of these boys! No sacrifice is too great for their country, their family and their FRiends.

That is no joke either.

71 posted on 01/07/2006 11:30:15 AM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: El Gato
1. Should the Bush administration be required to get a warrant from a judge before monitoring phone and internet communications between American citizens in the United States and suspected terrorists ...

How convenient that they left off something like "located in foreign countries" or "suspected foreign terrorists".

Not only that, the question is arranged such that many respondents might miss even the short phrase "suspected terrorists," rendering the question, in their minds, more in the nature of "Should the Bush administration be required to get a warrant from a judge before monitoring phone and internet communications between American citizens in the United States."

72 posted on 01/07/2006 11:31:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: squidly
A majority of Americans want the Bush administration to get court approval before eavesdropping on people inside the United States, even if those calls might involve suspected terrorists, an AP-Ipsos poll shows.

If a majority of Americans were THAT stupid, we would be listening to MSNBC anchors referring to the daily agenda of President Gore.

73 posted on 01/07/2006 11:32:27 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: Patriot from Philly

Poll Question: Should the outrageous and illegal actions of President Bush in allowing unwarranted spying on innocent American citizens be allowed to continue?


74 posted on 01/07/2006 11:33:49 AM PST by Joan Kerrey (what support is Sinclair giving to a candidate)
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To: Joan Kerrey

LOL! You got it. You forgot to put evil in front of President Bush!


75 posted on 01/07/2006 11:36:32 AM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: El Gato; humblegunner

Taking up glasses or guns.

What ever my America needs.


76 posted on 01/07/2006 11:39:12 AM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: Cboldt
Should the Bush administration be required to get a warrant from a judge before monitoring phone and internet communications between American citizens in the United States and suspected terrorists ...

Pssst, let me tell you a little secret.

The terrorist dogma is to win by the only way possible.

This to be to disrupt the dogma of those infidels who tote the power to stop them in their agenda to force their ideals on mankind.

Apparently, they are succeeding....

77 posted on 01/07/2006 11:40:39 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: p23185
Here's a poll to conduct in this country...."What percentage of the news that you view on TV and read in the paper do you believe to be true?"

Now THAT would be a most self defeating poll for the MSM to put out.

hee...hee...hee...

78 posted on 01/07/2006 11:44:57 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: Random Access
They are plotting to destroy the American economy by kidnapping Ted Kennedy and putting several distilleries out of business. What do you do?

Call my broker and sell short on Seagrams.

79 posted on 01/07/2006 11:45:42 AM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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To: Joan Kerrey
Should the outrageous and illegal actions of President Bush in allowing unwarranted spying on innocent American citizens be allowed to continue?

Let's take up that concern when it becomes reality.

80 posted on 01/07/2006 11:46:57 AM PST by EGPWS
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