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Senator proposes restricting sale of cold beer (Missouri)
STLtoday.com ^ | Jo Mannies

Posted on 01/07/2006 9:53:24 AM PST by FairWitness

As state Sen. Bill Alter sees it, a cold beer can be dangerous.

And he's got 11-year-old Kristen Bogert to back him up.

Alter, R-High Ridge, introduced a bill in the Missouri House this week that would bar groceries and convenience stores from selling beer "that is refrigerated below 60 degrees."

Alter said Friday that his aim is to discourage drunken drivers - although the bill doesn't restrict cold beer sales at liquor stores.

Alter deferred questions regarding that omission to the person he said was the real author of the bill: Kristen, a fifth-grader at Cedar Hill Intermediate in House Springs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: beer; driving; pinheadlegislation; wodlist
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A short article which struck me as a good example of "good intentions" pushed too the limit. Maybe I'm too old to appreciate the danger. I only have to drive three minutes from my nearest convenience store to home, so cracking open the six-pak on the way is not a problem. My memories of when I was underage inform me that warm beer would not have been a disincentive if I'd wanted a drink, and I doubt it is much of a barrier to folks who are dumb enough to drink while driving. But I suppose it will make a lot of folks feel good to support this law.

It was also noted near the bottem of this (short) article that drunken-driving fatalities in Missouri have declined over the past four years .

1 posted on 01/07/2006 9:53:25 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness

He should put a (D) after his name.


2 posted on 01/07/2006 9:55:52 AM PST by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: FairWitness

As a former binge drinker, I can tell you that warm beer would not stop someone who wants to drink it right away.

But hey, it [b]will[/b] inconvenience all those evil moderation drinkers!


3 posted on 01/07/2006 9:58:37 AM PST by ricardobaltazar
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To: ricardobaltazar

I'm with Ricardo, same reason.

Warm beer won't stop the drunk driver, duhh.

Also, the can won't be cold between your legs as you drive.


4 posted on 01/07/2006 10:00:08 AM PST by Syberyenta
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To: ricardobaltazar
As a former binge drinker, I can tell you that warm beer would not stop someone who wants to drink it right away.

That was my assumption also (besides, I've learned to actually like room-temp beer - must be my English heritage.

5 posted on 01/07/2006 10:03:34 AM PST by FairWitness
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I've wondered about the irony of selling individual cans/bottles when we have a no open container law. People that need a beer that bad are just going to buy 6 instead of one or drink it hot. They will just have to have bigger brown bags to put um in I guess. Instead of worrying about our seatbelts LE could make a bundle around here just having someone undercover in the store.


6 posted on 01/07/2006 10:04:44 AM PST by CindyDawg (Always Praying About Something)
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To: FairWitness

Tax the cigarettes out of existence and use the precedents to tax the burgers and ban the beer. Use the government to make your neighbors be "good." (The next century is going to be a booger.) Screw this Senator, I'd love to see him choke on his own bile.


7 posted on 01/07/2006 10:07:15 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (My exit strategy is Victory.)
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To: FairWitness

Maybe the good Senator sells coolers( igloo,etc...) instate.

This law will surely spark a cooler buying binge.


8 posted on 01/07/2006 10:10:09 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (I didn't go.)
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To: Luigi Vasellini

"He should put a (D) after his name."

What!?!? And ruin his chances of re-election!?!?

Obviously, this clown is another in a long list of "BIG GOVERNMENT" RINOs that needs to be culled from the herd.


9 posted on 01/07/2006 10:13:24 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: FairWitness

The Anheiser Busch family should have alredy paid this guy off by now.


10 posted on 01/07/2006 10:14:06 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: ricardobaltazar

Buying warm beer meant more for me. Nobody else wanted any. Sober since 06/01/99.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 10:17:15 AM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: FairWitness

This guy just kissed his re-election chances good-bye. What an idiot.


12 posted on 01/07/2006 10:18:30 AM PST by demkicker
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To: Howie66

Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

He isn't a Democrat, but he is my senator. I'll be letting him know what I think about this Monday morning.

He is running for reelection this year, and the democrats are working hard to remove all the repubs from Jefferson county this election cycle.

He has been a very good solid R until this fiasco...


13 posted on 01/07/2006 10:19:14 AM PST by BallandPowder
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I have known alcoholics who prefer room-temp beer. Besides, room-temp is the virtually the norm in much of Europe from what I understand.
14 posted on 01/07/2006 10:20:17 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FairWitness

Sounds like they'll have to stop selling ice and coolers too if they want this to be effective.


15 posted on 01/07/2006 10:20:38 AM PST by Alissa
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To: FairWitness

This isn't going to solve any problems. The law may ban buying cold beer, but most people will just buy Budwesier, Corona, Miller Light, etc. instead.


16 posted on 01/07/2006 10:20:59 AM PST by RonF
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To: ricardobaltazar
As a former binge drinker, I can tell you that warm beer would not stop someone who wants to drink it right away.

Roger that. In fact, I've learned from my world travels that cold beer is a uniquely American practice. With few exceptions, everywhere else I have been beer is enjoyed at room temperature.

17 posted on 01/07/2006 10:22:26 AM PST by Drew68
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To: FairWitness

I find both to be true. For me it depends on the beer. A guiness can be enjoyed warm but a regular miller or budwieser has to be cold.


18 posted on 01/07/2006 10:22:38 AM PST by Crooked Constituent
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To: BallandPowder

I didn't say that he was a RAT. I said that he's gone the route of "BIG GOVERNMENT" RINOs.

Since he's your Senator, I'd reccomend having a "Come to Jesus" chat with him and apparently from your comments you are going to do just that.

Charlie Mike.


19 posted on 01/07/2006 10:24:44 AM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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Besides, room-temp is the virtually the norm in much of Europe from what I understand.

That's because Lucas made many of the refrigerators there... :-)

Sorry, old joke from someone whose has dealt with electrical systems in a Triumph TR-6.

20 posted on 01/07/2006 10:26:33 AM PST by ken in texas (Can't afford a tagline... please send money.)
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