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To: GSlob
So when was the last time we had a lizard turn into a bird?
My basic argument comes down to this. Both Evo and ID have merit and need to be discussed in school. Science has many leaps of faiths. We make do with what we have and then modify when new evidence supports such conclusions.
46 posted on 01/06/2006 9:48:12 PM PST by roadking95th
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To: roadking95th

About 100 Myr [million years] ago. But learn to lose with class. Judge Jones took a broom and swept ID out of science class. As a science ID has no merit. As a theology, it might have some. He was not trying to sweep evolution theory into the curricula of seminaries or Sunday schools. To each one's own - render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.


49 posted on 01/06/2006 9:54:39 PM PST by GSlob
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To: roadking95th
Science does not make 'leaps of faith'. It may require some creative thinking to propose answers to questions, but those answers must conform to available evidence and make disprovable predictions. If the predictions are disproved, the theory in its current form is wrong. Period. That's science - no faith required.

I am NOT claiming that faith does not have a place in life. It is perfectly valid to believe that God created the world, but it is also valid to recognize that He appears to have created natural rules for its operation. The scientific method is the formal process for discovering those rules, and is pretty good at it. Countless phenomena were at one time thought to be the direct work of the Creator, and were later proven to be the result of natural processes. Why would science give up now on understanding the world as we've found it? As I said earlier, defaulting to God on anything we find challenging to understand is laziness.

The fact of evolution - that species adapt and sometimes form new species - is true and has been observed. The theory of evolution answers the how and why of that observation. Its not perfect yet, but that's no reason to give up now.

Its certainly no reason to teach our schoolchildren to abandon natural reasoning and logic the first time they don't intuitively understand a subject.
51 posted on 01/06/2006 10:02:26 PM PST by cdgent
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To: roadking95th
***So when was the last time we had a lizard turn into a bird?***

Dinosaurs. Specifically the Archaeopteryx

"In a nutshell, the majority of palaeontologists working on the ancestry of birds agree that dinosaurs, particularly small theropods, are the grandparents of present-day parrots, partridges and pigeons."
Granted there is debate whether dinosaurs were 'lizards' or warm blooded mammals but we are dealing with stuff that occurred +/-145 million years ago.
74 posted on 01/07/2006 7:13:05 AM PST by Condor51 (The above comment is time sensitive - don't BUG ME an hour from now.)
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