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Deliverance from Oslo curse?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/6/06 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 01/06/2006 7:25:37 PM PST by wagglebee

New Years Eve I predicted that something would happen to Ariel Sharon that would facilitate Benjamin Netanyahu to become the new prime minister. Though I am very sorry to hear of Sharon's massive stroke, it appears that it will facilitate Netanyahu replacing him in the next election.

Sharon's sudden fall from power has brought alarm to the liberals in Israel who still live in the delusion that giving the Palestinians the West Bank and at least half of Jerusalem will bring peace.

Leftist Israeli journalist and senior fellow at the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies Hirsh Goodman described Netanyahu as a man whose policies are diametrically opposed to Sharon's and under whose leadership the Roadmap "peace" plan would bog down.

Jerusalem News Wire correspondent Stan Goodenough also spotlighted this concern:

And as expressions of concern for Sharon and for the peace process were being aired from the White House to 10 Downing Street and from Paris to Beijing, expressions of consternation and anxiety were being voiced by many "experts" at the prospect of former Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu being returned to power in March.

As I warned in my New Year's Eve message, the United Nations, United States and European Union have all used the Oslo Agreement as a basis to force Israel into indefensible borders by turning over strategic land to them. Israel is being forced to make one-sided concessions to the Palestinians who have not fulfilled even one promise that they vowed to do. They have not disarmed the terrorist groups among them. They have not stopped terrorist attacks against Israel. They have allowed Gaza to become a terrorist stronghold from which they bombard Israel daily with increasingly more powerful and lethal weapons.

No one seems to have a realistic view of Israel's best interests except conservatives and religious Israelis. They are joined by Bible-believing Christians who believe in God's unconditional promises to Israel.

As Goodenough noted, "Sharon's willingness to proceed with the forced removal of his people from their homes in Gaza pushed hundreds of thousands of Jews to prayer. Untold numbers of Christians, too, went to prayer for divine intervention." It appears that those prayers have been dramatically answered.

Mr. Netanyahu has the clearest overall understanding of radical Islam's intentions and how to deal with them. In my recent interview with him, he clearly outlined the disasters that the Oslo Agreement and its resulting plans have brought upon Israel. He also cogently set forth the most brilliant analysis of what he would do to set Israel free from the resulting policies that are clearly leading Israel into destruction.

I believe his election will bring Israel back to reality. I believe that Israel's survival as a nation is quite literally at stake.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benjaminnetanyahu; osloagreement; palestinians; sharon
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the United Nations, United States and European Union have all used the Oslo Agreement as a basis to force Israel into indefensible borders by turning over strategic land to them. Israel is being forced to make one-sided concessions to the Palestinians who have not fulfilled even one promise that they vowed to do. They have not disarmed the terrorist groups among them. They have not stopped terrorist attacks against Israel. They have allowed Gaza to become a terrorist stronghold from which they bombard Israel daily with increasingly more powerful and lethal weapons.

Clinton and the leftists have nearly destroyed Israel, hopefully Netanyahu can save Israel and help instill true peace in the region.

1 posted on 01/06/2006 7:25:38 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Some of the same ideas have occurred to me. Whether or not Netanyahu can come in and save the day remains to be seen.

The "Oslo curse" is not a bad way to put it.


2 posted on 01/06/2006 7:32:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

BB!!!


3 posted on 01/06/2006 7:33:04 PM PST by Hypervigilant (Uhhhhhhhhhhh, well, never mind...)
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To: Cicero

There was a death curse put upon Sharon, for dividing the land, by ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel:

According to Reuters:

“It’s preferable that God, rather than a mortal, kills him because his bodyguards are just too good,” Ynet quoted one of the participants at a “Pulsa Denora,” an ancient Jewish ceremony which it said was held at a cemetery at the weekend. Jewish ultranationalis cast a similar religious curse against Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin before ultranationalist assassin Yigal Amir gunned him down at a peace rally in 1995."


4 posted on 01/06/2006 7:47:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Interesting. I hadn't seen that.


5 posted on 01/06/2006 7:50:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

"Mr. Netanyahu has the clearest overall understanding of radical Islam's intentions and how to deal with them. "

I was always impressed with Bebe. He was never for appeasement. I only hope the Israelis have the sense to put him back in office. Between him and Pres Bush, they can maybe bring some semblance of order to that region.


6 posted on 01/06/2006 7:51:53 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: RegulatorCountry

well now.. there's a piece o whackey we haven't heard before!


7 posted on 01/06/2006 7:52:03 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: goresalooza

Even if he is able to recover, it is obvious that Sharon is no longer healthy enough to remain in office, Netanyahu is the only logical person for the job.


8 posted on 01/06/2006 7:53:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: RegulatorCountry
There was a death curse put upon Sharon, for dividing the land, by ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel:

God is in control, not men.

9 posted on 01/06/2006 7:53:59 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: acapesket

"well now.. there's a piece o whackey we haven't heard before!"

This actually did occur, far-out though it may sound.


10 posted on 01/06/2006 8:00:20 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: wagglebee
Let's see, Sharon suffers a mild stroke on Dec 18th, weakening him physically and politically. Then...

...on New Years Eve Lindsey 'predicts' that something would happen to Ariel Sharon that would facilitate Benjamin Netanyahu to become the new prime minister.

Wow! Talk about great insight...(rolling eyes)

11 posted on 01/06/2006 8:00:59 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

"God is in control, not men."

I did a little reading on this "Pulsa Denora," back when it first made the news, and it sounds like something of a last resort entreaty to God for intervention, because his people are in mortal danger, and there is no recourse through the earthly leadership. Most Jews seem to view the practice as verging on witchcraft, and condemn anyone involved.


12 posted on 01/06/2006 8:04:12 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
ran across some interesting talk on a forum:

It is important to remind civilians that the key to accomplishing Pulsa Dinura is G_d's will. As in all things, nothing happens without G_d's accordance, and with it, you can curse the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to death if you so wish. But it WILL NOT HAPPEN without Hashem's authorization. EVER.

Its popular resurgence actually occurred in June, 1971, in the basement of a popular Mill Basin, Brooklyn catering hall, as the result of an unidentified Chasidish family's beef over a shotgun wedding gone bad. THAT is the true story, and it was on our radar screens long before Kabbalah, death curses, or any such populist drecque emerged in contemporary discourse.


source here

Ynet story

Amazing the worlds that google opens up that you didn't know were there.
13 posted on 01/06/2006 8:14:57 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Additionally, according to this Kabbalistic belief, those calling upon God to strike Sharon dead will instead be struck dead themselves, if their accusations are judged by God as being unjust. So, for those who believe such things, this is not an action to be taken lightly.


14 posted on 01/06/2006 8:17:57 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

That's a pretty serious prayer request...


15 posted on 01/06/2006 8:19:04 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I would say that under New Testament guidelines that trying to impose a curse is akin to witchcraft.


16 posted on 01/06/2006 8:20:06 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

"I would say that under New Testament guidelines that trying to impose a curse is akin to witchcraft."

As I mentioned above, I did do some reading back in October, when this first made the news, and it seems to me that the word "curse" is not quite appropriate. It's more of a plea for immediate judgement, in the here and now. But, there are quite a few Jewish people who agree with your statement as far as this being akin to witchcraft.


17 posted on 01/06/2006 8:23:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: He Rides A White Horse

For a Christian, it would be totally wrong. We're supposed to pray for those who we feel wrong us. We're not supposed to pray for retribution like that...But we're not talking about a Christian prayer tradition here.

But it's not like a curse by a witch doctor. It's a prayer for justice, in a darker vein than I would ever want to do.


18 posted on 01/06/2006 8:26:06 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

"I would say that under New Testament guidelines that trying to impose a curse is akin to witchcraft."

And witchcraft it is.


19 posted on 01/06/2006 8:27:43 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: wagglebee
Hal Lindsey has zero credibility. Go to you local library, check out the 1970's edition of Late Great Planet Earth, and see if any of his doom-and-gloom predictions have come to pass.
20 posted on 01/06/2006 8:28:56 PM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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