Now for breakfast!
Posted on 01/06/2006 9:12:35 AM PST by DebtAndDelusion
Hard to believe there was a time when a person could go to the bank and trade American dollars for gold. No that's not right because I remember those days. What's hard to believe is how the government just keeps printing more and more money and...
people can't understand why the price of gold just keeps going up.
HG
That's "high noon" .... When you're talking about gold. ;-)
Now for breakfast!
The price of gold is going up because of marketing, it appears. If it weren't for gold, the sleep number bed, and steel buildings, we wouldn't have talk radio.
LOL!
Did someone really write that?
Put another way: The valuse of the U.S. dollar has fallen to $539 relative to a base of one ounce of gold.
"Bush's fault"
Actually, in all series-ness there's enough blame to go around, starting about 90 years ago.
go short
so, facts are, based on costs of inflation, etc., at this rate it'll only take another 250 years for gold to get back to the real $ value it was a couple decades ago ROFLMAO
I am by no means currency expert, but less dollar value makes junk we make less expensive for the world to buy, ...
same deal with chicoms they devalue their currency to sell us their junk
now, the problem is that once they let the dollar tank, the oil peoples did not like the fact they are getting less bank for the buck...
anywho...
This is not a very informative article. It dance's around the 'whys' and 'what happened when' of the recent history of gold.
What morons! Who would buy gold? Everybody knows that the US dollar is as solid as...........well........um............
Maybe we can't understand why gold keeps going up, because in the long run gold doesn't, and never has "kept going up".
Gold is nowhere near its absolute historical highs. Worse, if measured in constant dollars, taking into account inflation, Gold is nowhere near being NEAR its historical highs.
Gold hasn't been a good hedge against inflation, deflation, recession, upturn, downturn, or stagnation. Heck, it isn't even a good hedge against divorce anymore.
Might as well trade in beanie-babies. FOr a while they were a much better investment than gold.
China intially linked their currency to a constant dollar value in order to stop a multi decade decline, and to boost confidence in its currency among potential trade partners. Businesses love the predictability of a stable currency. These days it does devalue its currency in effect because their economy is doing so well.
Currency devaluation in order to boost exports is the dumbest thing all politicians around the world do. It's a fallback to the destructive, zero sum mercantilist mindset.
Don't forget the widex senso-diva hearing aid......
Moron here. My brother in law talked me into it kicking and screaming last June and I got in a 391.00. He, of course, keeps reminding me how reluctant I was to buy it.
Do you expect the dollar to double in price, or fall to half it's value, in the next two years? Because that is actually the definition of relative stability in the gold market these days.
that was a bit over my head
but your saying i was almost right? cause that would be good
at any rate thanks for the information
You say "at this rate it will only take 250 years to get back to the real value it had a few years ago". I think you have it backwards!
The simple facts are the DOLLAR is never going back to the value it had for many years of $20 to a oz. of gold. NEVER EVER!
There is a nice little inflation calculator here: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/.
Using it I see that $20 cash in 1925 would require $216 in cash today to equal the buying power it had then. So if you kept your $20 bill or bank deposit from then it *is* still legal tender (unlike most of the other world currencies from that period in history which have been repudiated) but it's only worth 1/10th of what it was. If you took the simple expedient of asking for a gold coin at the teller window back then it's now worth 2.2 TIMES what it was - INFLATION ADJUSTED. Or it's worth 27X times what is was in dollars.
Yes you could have done better if you picked the right stocks. You also could have done a lot worse if you picked the wrong stocks.
If you use the all time gold high of $840 in 1980 and use the calculator it does show you've lost money. But that spike was a huge short lived anomoly. Here's the chart:
Here is your worst case scenario: What cost $840 in 1980 now costs $2133. If you held cash you lost $1293 of purchasing power. If you held gold you lost $2083. A significant difference.
So at worst it is a commodity like others and the old saw "buy low, sell high" applies. Lots of people made profits on it in 2006. Is the bull over? Or will it set a new inflation adjusted high (Over $2133)?
If it continues to appreciate at the rate it did last year it would pass this mark in 8 years, not 250 as you claim, for gold to surpass the real world value of it's all time high.
Keep laughing!
Note the above DOW/gold graph.
Extrapolate the likely ratio in a year or two, and where that puts the DOW, and gold.
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