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A Calamity for Israel
Washington Post ^ | January 6, 2006 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 01/05/2006 9:38:30 PM PST by Nachum

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To: Hypervigilant

I'll have to link you up some threads, but pay attention to rutlesforever's analysis.


21 posted on 01/05/2006 11:24:08 PM PST by txhurl (we hooked 'em)
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To: IntheHillsGolden

In this case, one became the PM of Israel by promising a hard line against the Palestinians and an end to appeasement; but then after one was in office, one changed one's policy and led the country down the slippery slope of appeasement; one will now be replaced by Binyamin Netanyahu, who knows how to deal with terrorists. One will be remembered fondly by the PLO in comparison with Netanyahu.


22 posted on 01/06/2006 12:20:01 AM PST by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: American in Israel

http://www.freeman.org

MISC THOUGHTS ON SHARON, TERRORISTS & MORE
BY Steven Plaut

Thursday, January 05, 2006


1. When Sharon dies, one of the biggest questions will be whether the
Israeli police and prosecution will be indicting everyone in Israel who
says "Good riddance" - for "incitement" of course, just like after
Rabin's death. Will the police arrest ONLY "right-wingers" from the Gush Katif movement or also the leftists who will
be saying that. And if the cops do NOT arrest the leftists saying it, it
will because the Israeli establishment only prosecutes "Right-wingers"
for poor taste, and never Left-wingers for treason, and THAT is in many ways a major part of the Sharon legacy.


23 posted on 01/06/2006 1:51:42 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: American in Israel

Keep it up, you are on a roll and it couldn't be said any better.

Yes, prayers for him and his family and the country.
But do you support him or his policies? A resounding no.
Appeasment got you hitlers rise.


24 posted on 01/06/2006 3:20:38 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Nachum

He's right about one thing: Whoever gets the job after Sharon is going to have his hands full.


25 posted on 01/06/2006 3:25:04 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

"Whoever gets the job after Sharon is going to have his hands full."

May it please, please be Benjamin Netanyahu, please? Israel, you are at a junction now. Don't make a big mistake in who you hire, and the Deputy PM is not the man to hire. He has dovish propensities and would continue Sharon's evacuations, this time in the West Bank. Be careful, Israel. You will be shrinking in size piece by piece. And Ehud, having been Mayor of Jerusalem, would probably give part of Jerusalem away to the Pali's also.

A tiny little country that becomes even smaller by giving away land won in war is giving up strategic buffer zones. Note how giving up the Gaza territories has done nothing but allow the Pali terrorists to move up even closer to the Israeli border, and continuously lob rockets into Israel proper.

I admire Sharon for what he did when younger, but as an elder, he was seeking his legacy (as is Bush) and wanted to be the one to draw Israel's borders before he died. He almost made it, however thank goodness he will no longer be in power to give away more of Israeli land. May he get better and retire to his farm and smell the roses in the time he has left, unless he doesn't make it, at which time he should get a warrior's funeral, great respect, and honor for what he accomplished earlier in life.


26 posted on 01/06/2006 4:02:37 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: Hypervigilant

Czechoslovakia would certainly agree with you on that...

'Peace in our time."

Pfaugh!


27 posted on 01/06/2006 6:57:57 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: txflake

Because an Axis can only have three members...

Syria was placed in the Axis of Evil standby's.

:-)


28 posted on 01/06/2006 7:02:22 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Flux Capacitor
But as Israel's PM, his decision to unilaterally withdraw from Gaza was a horrible, horrible, horrible mistake that will do far more damage to Israel in the long term than his own passage from this Earth (to put it bluntly).

You're treating it like a football game. Look at it as a chess game, and see if you come to the same conclusion.

If you ask me, the behavior the Palestinians in Gaza has done more to strengthen Israel's hand than anything in the last 15 years.

29 posted on 01/06/2006 7:02:56 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Nachum

Sharon is now dead.


30 posted on 01/06/2006 7:09:10 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: American in Israel

You are exactly right.

It is said that Sharon had a very distinguished record in support of Israel for many decades and therefore certainly knew what he was doing the last few years. But there is the contradiction.

In the last few years his polices were diametrically opposed to his earlier beliefs. Was he wrong then or wrong now. Or as the Liberals always claim, did he "mature" when he turned Leftist and an appeaser.

I was ecstatic when it looked like Sharon was going to be elected PM for the first time. When in Israel it made me glad driving Route 1 from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv with the Sharon election signs lining the highway.

I believe he did so much damage to Israel in the last few years that cumulatively it will negate all the good he did over his life.

Even this monstrosity of a Party he founded. A party of both the Left and the Right. A Party of no principles except the benefit of its power hungry members.

Sharon had a minor stroke last month. He miraculously walked away unharmed. A sane person would be concerned of the danger. Instead he totality ignored the signs and continued doing what he was doing. His current catastrophe is the result.

As he treated his health, so has he treated Israel.


31 posted on 01/06/2006 7:12:58 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Junior_G

Drudge is backtracking on this, so I will too. Sharon's status is unknown. World Tribune reports that he is dead, but nobody else is reporting this.


32 posted on 01/06/2006 7:18:41 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: Flux Capacitor
They can never be even remotely trusted as any sort of "peace partner"

Sharon never thought they could be.

He withdrew from Gaza because Israel was not strong enough to evict the Palestinians, and because he thought he could use the withdrawal to make annexation in the West Bank viable.

33 posted on 01/06/2006 10:06:30 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: Hypervigilant
I agree with you on this. What Israel needs is more men like Netanyahu.
34 posted on 01/06/2006 10:13:23 AM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: DevSix
He put his life on the line! So did Murtha, I guess you think he is a great man too.
35 posted on 01/06/2006 10:14:48 AM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: fish hawk
He put his life on the line! So did Murtha, I guess you think he is a great man too.

To try and compare what A. Sharon has done for Israel to Murtha's service is so intellectually lazy I need not even respond.

Learn some history.

36 posted on 01/06/2006 10:21:34 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: fish hawk

Bibi did not distinguish himself when he had his chance.

What Israel needs are men and women not readily known to most Americans. Not necessarily a man with a pretty face.

Moshe Arens or Benny Begin would be good. Others.

But, unfortunately, in the limited choice of the upcoming elections, of those that will likely be in the running, Netanyahu is the clear head and shoulders preference (with a prayer that he learned from his mistakes).


37 posted on 01/06/2006 10:28:20 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: American in Israel
How do you account for the fact that Sharon was on track to win 70% of the vote in the coming election?
38 posted on 01/06/2006 10:29:22 AM PST by veronica (....."send Congressman Murtha a message: that cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
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To: DevSix
Lazy may be better than stupid. If Sharon stays in power when do you think he will give away the Golan Heights? That would be next, I expect. I don't wish for him to die but just not be able to get back to giving Israel away to their enemies. You don't have to answer if this truth is not intellectual enough for you.
39 posted on 01/06/2006 10:30:57 AM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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To: fish hawk
If Sharon stays in power when do you think he will give away the Golan Heights?

You are terribly uninformed speaking about an issue you obviously no little to nothing about. Take some advice. It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought of a fool....then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

To suggest Sharon would "give away" military strategic lands is utterly foolishness. In the essence of just giving them away.

Understand PM Sharon knows about defending Israel and defeating her enemies better then anyone.

It was Commander Sharon who when it appeared to many inside Israel (for apprx 48 hours) that Israel would fall and not survive in the Yom Kippur War 73' - It was Commander Sharon who was brought out of retirement no less to lead Israel to victory by stopping the Egyptian forces.

Over the past 4 years since Sharon has been back in power terror attacks have dropped by over 90% in Israel. That is reality bud. Israel's enemies have nothing but fear and respect for PM Sharon. Period. Which is why he was able to deal from strength.

For you to suggest anything otherwise or to question that Mr. Sharon would give away Israels protection is utterly foolish.

40 posted on 01/06/2006 10:44:33 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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