After OKC bombing, Secret Service took thousands of phone records without court approval...

McCurtain Daily Gazette ^ | 1/5/2006 | J.D. Cash and Lt. Col. Roger Charles U.S.M.C. (retired)

[Velveeta]

[Baraonda]

You quote doesn't say anything about president Bush.

I don't understand what the president has to do with the quote.

[KevinDavis]

lol!!!

[Fledermaus]

Oh come on! They were only trying to find out if anyone was communicating with the leader of the OKC bombing as declared by Clinton - Rush Limbaugh!! ;-)

[theBuckwheat]

A few years back, I read the court transcript where the president of the company that had issued the calling card was testifying. He said that some of the calling records were missing because **the switch crashed several times per day**!

ROFL.

Humor aside, it is shocking how quickly some business execs fall all over themselves to anyone with a gun and a badge. Yet why should we not be surprised when these firms rely on good relations with government regulators for approval of this and that filing and or rate request?

[Fledermaus]

Wow, that picture shows the MSM reaction to Sandy Burgler stealing documents for the National Archives.

Oh, but Bush should be impeached? Geez, what a bunch of losers.

[Velveeta]

I was more intrigued by the "Liberty Lobby" company not being notified at all that their entire customer database was being monitored.

[ColdSteelTalon]

Yes is suspect specfic. A request is made for certain numbers not all phone numbers.

I can only speak to telephony and the phone numbers not credit card processing.

[plangent]

sure as I'm sitting here, this rag is ignorant:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 12949


- - - - - - - FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE PHYSICAL SEARCHES




By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("Act") (50 U.S.C. 1801, et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.

Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.

Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:

(a) Secretary of State;

(b) Secretary of Defense;

(c) Director of Central Intelligence;

(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;

(e) Deputy Secretary of State;

(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense; and

(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.

None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications, unless that official has been appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.

WILLIAM J. CLINTON THE WHITE HOUSE, February 9, 1995.

[Velveeta]

Thanks for the input.
Actually, I'm recalling bits and pieces about Liberty Lobby as I just googled em up.

http://www.publiceye.org/tooclose/liblobby.html

[SlowBoat407]

But... but... but... We all know that conservatives and Right Wingers are much more of a threat to this country than Islamic terrorists!

Don't we?

[A.A. Cunningham]

Lt. Col. Roger Charles U.S.M.C. (retired)

He's the guy who exposed Boorda.

[Hillary'sMoralVoid]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Reno's Justice Department tap the phones and monitor all communications at the Waco compound without any warrants?

[eyespysomething]

Quite a few Government agencies have the power to seize phone records and othe private info without a court order.

Who can?

[yarddog]

Who can?

All of the law enforcement agencies and probalby some others too.

[eyespysomething]

They don't give a rats ass if you are talking on your phone about running down the street to buy an ounce of weed, and couldn't use it in court anyway.

BTTT - what those who are screaming about civil rights violations are screaming forget!

[eyespysomething]

I'm pretty sure our local sheriff cannot get any type of phone records without some type of court permission, but I'm not sure about a full warrant. I really thought they had to have a warrant though.

Now, I saw your post about IRS agents, and that may be so, and wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[Velveeta]

I know, I know...we bad.

[devolve]

[nw_arizona_granny]

Vel, we must get a copy of the ladies program, imagine what we could do with it.

I am certain Jim Robinson would love to set it up for us, talk about research.

Laughing......and remembering numbers that meant nothing to us.